Need Advice Ford 1700 Upper Radiator Hose Burst

[fried1765]

Your air filter housing almost looks like my NH1920 housing that has a pre-filter section built in. If so, I don't think you need the pre-filter cap/hat section that penetrates the hood.

My 1989 1920 air filter housing looks nothing like the one in the the OP picture.

 

[Justadudewithatractor]

Happy Thanksgiving to you and whoever celebrates it here and abroad, specially this year !!!

I did go to the barn for a quick look, the air filter top does have and indentation on the right side mating with the hood curvature. The tolerance between under side of the hood and top of the air filter top is about 1/4" at best but it is not touching it. My suggestion to you is to do the work yourself. if you a 4 lb hammer , few 2x4 on the floor and striking it right you can do it. does not need to be very pretty. Better than that , you can buy a sheet body repair kit from Harbor Freight and it has enough hammer and dollies to match the curvature of the rest of the hood. You will most likely able to pound it out without hood removal hopefully. Make sure to download 20% coupon. I guess I bought mine fro around $20 and it already paid for itself using it once.

JC,

PS. I looked at the pic you posted again and I think you can do it with the kit from HF. You might push , pull or bend at the hing also. Boady shop will have a hard time without tractor there. Again , your reference need to be the hole on the hood and intake pipe on the upper filter bowl. The pipe needs to at the center of the hole on the hood.

Body And Fender Set, 7 Pc.

Thanks again JC, I've got a 4lb hammer in the shop and give that a try first, but will pick up that body and fender set at HF!!
If I can't get that bent in enough, I'll work on lifting the hood at the hinge.

Cheers!

 

[JC-jetro]

Thanks again JC, I've got a 4lb hammer in the shop and give that a try first, but will pick up that body and fender set at HF!!
If I can't get that bent in enough, I'll work on lifting the hood at the hinge.

Cheers!

Good luck. I am sure one way or another you will bring it to submission. The top cap on the filter has a depression, basically pushed in to allow non-interference with the hood. The tolerance is around 1/4". Right orientation does make a difference. Zoom in and pan the attached pic to see it. if you have a small bottle jack then you might try to see if you can clamp piece of wood the hood sheet metal for a bottle jack base and and use another piece of 2x4 to push up the dent from under the hood. Got to be a bit inventive to push the dent out.

JC,

 

[Justadudewithatractor]

Will give it a go! Thank!

 

[Justadudewithatractor]

Not sure if this thread should be moved or renamed since the hood is the issue over the radiator hose.

I've banged the hood and here's the issue. The hood/hinges aren't adding up. If the bolts are taken out of the hinges and I fit the hood in the proper position, my hinges are off by about 2". The hood is also sitting on the muffler.



If I attach the hinges my hood is off by about 2" and is sitting on the Air Filter.


So my question is this - Does this look like the area above the hinges has been bent in some way? Maybe it's been bent inward toward the engine?

Thanks

 

[JC-jetro]

Not sure if this thread should be moved or renamed since the hood is the issue over the radiator hose.

I've banged the hood and here's the issue. The hood/hinges aren't adding up. If the bolts are taken out of the hinges and I fit the hood in the proper position, my hinges are off by about 2". The hood is also sitting on the muffler.


If I attach the hinges my hood is off by about 2" and is sitting on the Air Filter.


So my question is this - Does this look like the area above the hinges has been bent in some way? Maybe it's been bent inward toward the engine?

Thanks

Ok. for the sake of dimensional reference I went to the barn and took several pictures that show your where things need to be by eyeballing it. Compare and contrast to what you have and beat the hood to submission to make all fit as best as you can. There is no wiggle room with air filter it is solid where it is. that should be your reference. Look at the holes on top of the hood for diesel fill, radiator cap and the exhaust top piece. The hinge on the hood is pretty beefy so I think sheet metal will distort before the hinge does. There are 4 bolt that attache the hinge to hood and you have about 3/4" forward or backward movement to line up with the aforementioned holes discussed. I hope the pics will help you to get it 1/2 way there at least.

JC,

 

[Justadudewithatractor]

Ok. for the sake of dimensional reference I went to the barn and took several pictures that show your where things need to be by eyeballing it. Compare and contrast to what you have and beat the hood to submission to make all fit as best as you can. There is no wiggle room with air filter it is solid where it is. that should be your reference. Look at the holes on top of the hood for diesel fill, radiator cap and the exhaust top piece. The hinge on the hood is pretty beefy so I think sheet metal will distort before the hinge does. There are 4 bolt that attache the hinge to hood and you have about 3/4" forward or backward movement to line up with the aforementioned holes discussed. I hope the pics will help you to get it 1/2 way there at least.

JC,
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Hi JC and thanks again! The reference photos helps immensely! I see the 4 bolt attachment and will try and get those loosened up and adjusted. Some more bending on the hood above the hinge is probably required also. I've heard there's a dedicated tractor community where I'm at and will see about tapping into the locals here if I can't get it adjusted correctly.

Thanks!

 

[JC-jetro]

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Hi JC and thanks again! The reference photos helps immensely! I see the 4 bolt attachment and will try and get those loosened up and adjusted. Some more bending on the hood above the hinge is probably required also. I've heard there's a dedicated tractor community where I'm at and will see about tapping into the locals here if I can't get it adjusted correctly.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

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[Justadudewithatractor]

Ok. for the sake of dimensional reference I went to the barn and took several pictures that show your where things need to be by eyeballing it. Compare and contrast to what you have and beat the hood to submission to make all fit as best as you can. There is no wiggle room with air filter it is solid where it is. that should be your reference. Look at the holes on top of the hood for diesel fill, radiator cap and the exhaust top piece. The hinge on the hood is pretty beefy so I think sheet metal will distort before the hinge does. There are 4 bolt that attache the hinge to hood and you have about 3/4" forward or backward movement to line up with the aforementioned holes discussed. I hope the pics will help you to get it 1/2 way there at least.

JC,

HOOD ISSUE SOLVED.... well sorta

First off, Thank you JC-Jetro and the many others that have given outstanding advice on the hood not fitting and how to get it back on straight. My next step was to actually have a piece built between the hinge and the hood to lift it. BUT mysteriously when I started the tractor to move some gravel, the hood fit perfectly! Took the tractor out and long story short, when I lifted gravel into the front loader, something went horribly wrong. The rubber lockdowns on the hood came off and I noticed the air intake was bent forward. I finally got the the top portion of the air intake off and BAM, the entire front end with the battery and radiator went forward on a pivot away from the engine. The radiator hoses came loose, spilling all of the radiator fluid on the ground. Oil filter damaged with all of the oil spilling on the ground. Wanting to get the tractor back in the shop, I started the motor, lowered the frontloader and BAM the battery and radiator came back towards the engine. I reattached radiator hoses, got an old oil filter on, filled what I could and backed the tractor into the the shop, dragging the front loader on the ground.

I'm missing almost all of the bolts that hold the front to the tractor as you'll see in the photos. I only know this because of the photos JC sent and I saw two and thought "uh oh, my tractor doesn't look like that". I have no idea when and how they came off.

First JC's tractor and photos
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Now my tractor/photos First two are on the left, second two on the right. And in the first one you'll notice the drivetrain detached from the front axle(We'll get to that. First things first).


I'm assuming the holes need to line up and the bolts need to be attached. I've also noticed the holes are different sizes.

While the above is the bad news, the good news should be that when these are all lined up and attached correctly, I believe my hood issues will be resolved.

Any advice as to where I can find the correct sizes of the bolts would be appreciated.

Thanks again!

 

[JC-jetro]

I wondered if your tractor was involved in a frontal to cause all the holes misalignment. Do I see it correctly that drive shaft for the front wheels is off and not meshing with differential input shaft gears? do you have the bolts sheared off flush with the engine block. if you want the mount the bar that connect to the front bumper and the engine block then you have to extract the portion of the bolt in the hole with an "easy out" after you drill a hole in what is left out of the bolt in the hole. It will not going to be easy. You can alternately weld inside of a nut to the busted bolt so you have something to grab a hold of the busted bolt. That is easier said that done though. it s really strange, did they drill and tap block for the new bolts?

JC,