Need Help.. 2305 won't Start

[KHUGHES]

I posted a new thread last week concerning the Fuel shut-off solenoid problem with my 2305. This weekend i replaced the solenoid and tried starting the tractor, it would spin over but would not start. I then removed the new solenoid and noticed the plunger was still out ( in the shut-off position). You can push in the plunger and it will stay but the solenoid will not pull it in by itself. The wires on the new solenoid are labeled pull and hold, there is no power on the pull wire at all. I've checked all fuses and they are fine. The battery is weak , but i even tried jumping in off and same results. Thanks and i'll be glad to try anything at this point.

 

[Willl]

Power on the 'pull' wire is only there for the first 3-5 seconds that the key switch is turned on.

 

[KHUGHES]

The only way i had to test it was with a test light and i had no power anywhere through the Starting cycle. I've been searching other post and have seen a Module mentioned. Is this a possibility?

 

[Willl]

Very possible.

On my 790, both 'pull' and 'hold' wires come directly from the "Time delay control module".

 

[KHUGHES]

When the solenoid went out , it actually "melted". It could have shorted something else at the samt time. I could run a Hot to the pull side of the solenoid on a toggle switch, but i hate to have to do that a tractor this new.

 

[Willl]

but i hate to have to do that a tractor this new.

Ya, I'd have to agree.
Only have 2 ways to go here. Pay somebody to fix it or get a tech manual and start learning 2305 wiring yourself.

On mine, there's also a small cube relay tagged "K2" that plays some magical part in this fuel thing.
Pretty easy to test those.

 

[KHUGHES]

Thanks for your help. Do you know of any online sources for JD parts?

 

[KHUGHES]

Willl, The Battery acts to be pretty much SHOT. Do you think that could be the problem even though i get the same results when jumping it off ?

 

[KHUGHES]

Do 2305's have Thermistors? If so where would they be?

 

[Willl]

The only JD stuff I bought on line was the tech and parts manuals, both from deere.com

You bet, low battery voltage will do all kinds of weird things. Get a good battery in there.

What do mean by "Thermistors" ?

 

[KHUGHES]

if you search this forum for THERMISTOR , it says that are heat resistors that control the amps to the pull side of the solenoid. They only talk about them on the 4000 series tractors. The problem they describe is exactly the problem i am having. Thanks again for all your help.

 

[Willl]

I did a search on JD parts for a "THERMISTOR" for the 2305 and came up blank.

I then did a search on the THERMISTOR part number (LVU10323) and it only listed the 4000 series, so I gota believe yours doesn't have one.

 

[KHUGHES]

Thanks for all your help. I'll keep you informed of what i find out from the dealer.

 

[davkir]

Hope this helps.

 

[KHUGHES]

Thanks Davkir, That will give something to go by when i'm trying to trace down the problem. I'm thinking it has to be the Pull-in Relay or the Relay timer. Thanks again

 

[KHUGHES]

Ok guys, it's fixed... Problem: k2 pull-in timer relay!! A local JD dealer gave me a step by step procedure to find problem and after about a hour of research , i found it. If anyone ever has this type of problem , let me know and i'll be glad to send you the info. i received from JD. Thanks again for everyones help.

 

[prowley]

KHughes, can I ask that you post that info here? When you search the site and find a thread like this that ends like that, well maybe you'll be around in 2 years to answer, or maybe you won't

 

[wuntun]

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