Need Help Heater Does Not Work

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Hey N Y fan,take from a guy who is a diesel mechanic for 30yrs, blocking the air flow to the radiator is NOT the answer,just might bring alot of headache's down the road.Take the time to replumb it,you already know how to do the drill and tap stuff.Just put a pipe plug in your current hole,down the road if you have an overheating problem or blown head gasket you will not wander if you should have done it right the first time. There's a couple days of nice weather ahead. Good luck Red
 
   / Need Help Heater Does Not Work #22  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I plan on cutting the flow of air to the radiator by putting plastic on the screen so the engine will run hotter to get the thermostat to open and stay open. Snowblowing puts a good load on the engine. )</font>

Wow, I just saw that. I totally agree with previous poster, do NOT do that. I'll do that with my International Loadstars to get them UP to operating temp in the dead of winter, but you don't want to go over it like that.
 
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Here where the return line for the rad goes.
 

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Another pic
 

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#26  
Update....

IT WORKED!!!

We had 9" of the white stuff today and the BX got a work out. I did not have to change anything worked fine as I installed it. I had the radiator about 60% covered, it ran hot, took the cover off, back to normal temp and heat. I am a happy camper now. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Need Help Heater Does Not Work #27  
It's good to hear that /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

So, no need to cover the Rad at all, right?

Your the man...
 
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#28  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( So, no need to cover the Rad at all, right? )</font>

Correct! Temps were in the mid 20's F, no problem. Now if it gets down to 0F or below, then perhaps a section maybe needed to be covered, got plastic and duct tape, not a problem. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Need Help Heater Does Not Work #29  
NY - I hate to be a pain in the a**, but ... (oh wait a minute, that's what I live for, never mind /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) ... I still think there's a good chance something's up with your plumbing. Even if it's 20 below zero out, your engine should still get up to operating temp with no need to cover the radiator. And with an engine that is at normal operating temperature, your heater, regardless of the ambient temperature, should be putting out hot air like crazy (just like me /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif). Seriously though, I'd encourage you to look further into it - I kinda cringed when I read that "it ran hot" for even a little while. Heat in cab, good. Overheated engine, no good. Sorry to butt in, couldn't he'p ma'seff.

Enjoy the heat though, you must be having a blast today!

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Just re-read this post from "Red", and had to repost it: 30 years is a long time. 1.5 careers, almost half a lifetime. Advice from sources like this - been around, seen a LOT, knows a lot, and is still on the planet - is a precious commodity, and deserves at least a re-read, IMHO.

<font color="red"> Hey N Y fan, take it from a guy who is a diesel mechanic for 30 yrs, blocking the air flow to the radiator is NOT the answer, just might bring a lot of headaches down the road. Take the time to replumb it, you already know how to do the drill and tap stuff. Just put a pipe plug in your current hole, down the road if you have an overheating problem or blown head gasket you will not wonder if you should have done it right the first time. There's a couple days of nice weather ahead. Good luck Red </font>
 
   / Need Help Heater Does Not Work #30  
The Sims heater is great if the hoses don't get pinched or rubbed thru by the mower belt. I finally gave up and removed the heater from my cab due to the antifreeze leaks from the hoses....the heater in the back is a very poor design because the hoses have to be routed under the tractor and there is no much room under there.
Remember to open the air duct under the battery and put the winter front on the grill in the cab. That way the warm air from the heater doesn't get sucked out the cab.

Good luck with the heater!
 
   / Need Help Heater Does Not Work #31  
Sandy,

Did you check where my return line is routed in my previous post/pic. Maybe you could route it the same?

Hope it helps
 
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#32  
Thanks for the comments, what would we do without TBN. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The needle NEVER reached the red line on the temp gauge, when I saw it climbing above the normal range, I stopped and took the plastic off. So I think I am OK. I only put the plastic on the radiator in take because other folks here on TBN have done so, see link below. Knowing that I will have good heat even at -10 F is great to know. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Regarding the Sims cab heater I did not get the Sims heater. I picked up a Curtis Cab heater from e-bay and installed it on the left side of the cab. In the summer I take the cab off , but leave the heater and bottom half of the Sims cab on the tractor year round.

I put plastic on the in-take radiator inside of the cab so you do not get the cold being sucked into the cab. I did take the panel out from under the battery to give the engine a place to get air.



web page
 
   / Need Help Heater Does Not Work #33  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( what would we do without TBN. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)</font>

We'd probably all get a lot more work done, that's what. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

But we all wouldn't be so darn smart either. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

WARM wishes to all, John
 
   / Need Help Heater Does Not Work #34  
Sad, but I agree with the "redrill and retap, below" school of thought ...in fact, the whole point of the thermostat is to insure a supply of hot water. Used to be that we installed "winter thermostats" in our cars to make sure the heaters worked adequately ...and, if necessary, reverted to "summer thermostat" if overheating was a problem when the weather turned hot.
 

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