Need help identifying International tractor

[Bayoucritter]

This is my first post here. I am trying to rejuvenate my wife's family pecan orchard that has been unattended several years. We have an old International tractor for mowing. I am trying to find the model number and HP. I can find no serial numbers. The only marking is "Industrial" on the front grill. I have been told it is an early 60's model. It is yellow and was originally used by the local levee board as a mower. Can anyone tell where the serial number and model number might be located on the tractor.

 

[MrJoe]

Can you post a pix? I could look it up in one of the refrence books and see what is close.

 

[slowrev]

SN's on some IH tractors of that vintage are on the right side of the clutch housing.
Ben

 

[Bayoucritter]

Not sure how to post a picture but I will take a picture when I go up there to work this weekend. I will also check that location for the serial number. Thanks for your help.

 

[Bayoucritter]

Here is a picture of the International.

 

[Bayoucritter]

One more picture. Sorry it took so long, the orchard is 35 miles away and I forgot the camera twice. This time I used my camera phone.

 

[POWERSTROKE]

My guess would be a 2404 Industrial, or a 2444 Industrial. Try looking around on the right hand side of the engine block for a serial number or model number. Something that starts with a C-144, C-135, etc.

 

[Bayoucritter]

Thanks when I put it up yesterday it was too dark for me to try to look for numbers. I will check for them next time.

 

[slowrev]

I have a 2444 industrial and the hood/grill sheetmetal on your is not like mine. I do realize that yours has the cast grill which mine does not, but the angle of the grill is not right. My grill slants back at the top, yours seems to slant forward. The id plate should be on the side of the housing underneath the brake pedals.

Yours appears to be a diesel. maybe a bd154 ?

Ben

 

[slowrev]

Your tractor definately looks like one of the british designs. ie 204, 304,404,224,334,444,504, etc the 2 in front of the model number just indicates industrial version. If you find the model tag and the first letter is a U then it was us built and will have delco electrical stuff. If the first letter begins with a B it is british built and will have Lucas electrical stuff. The alternator is a good starting place, is is a Delco or Lucas ?

Ben

 

[slowrev]

Ever figure out what model the tractor is ?
Ben

 

[MMM]

Pretty sure it's a 2404 or 2504 with the obvious overbite of grill..

 

[Bayoucritter]

I still have not been able to locate the plate showing model/serial number. I bushhogged with it a couple hours last Saturday before it began running hot. I pulled the grill and discovered a rats nest between the grill and radiator. I got busy cleaning that out and forgot to take a better look for the plate. I am really interested in what the HP is rated. Since I am cutting about 40 acres on limited time, I'd like to get the biggest mower possible. THanks for all the help so far.

 

[dcondo]

From the photo, it is definately an industrial varient of the IH 424 or 444. So you are looking at a 2424 or 2444. I believe they were rated at about 38 hp.

 

[MMM]

I don't think it's 24, 44, 54 etc. They all were vertical grill/sidecovers or had underbite (bottom of grill slant fwd). Just post the engine s/n and I might can find hp if that's all that matters. No matter which model it will be 35-40ptohp, so you can base cutter size on that..

 

[slowrev]

MMM, I am not so sure the cast industrial grills had the underbite.
Maybe so though. Whish I had a cast grill for my 2444.

Ben

 

[MMM]

Here's a pic, although not the best angle. Note sidecover.

 

[slowrev]

What is that one MMM? side covers nor grill look like a 4 type. My sidecovers at the front are narrower at the bottom than the top on my 2444. And yes my grill slants back. but I have not seen a 2444 with the cast grill either, so am not sure. Can check my manuals.

Ben

 

[MMM]

That's the 2404. All other subsequent 4 series slant like yours or are vertical as far as I know. There's a 504 just arrived on ebay today (a bit overpriced and should be there a while)

 

[MMM]

Got price mixed up with different old tractor. That's not unreasonable start bid considering work done on it. Farmall and International 04s had differnt engines if I remember correct.
big brother