Loader Need Help! My BX25 Loader will not go back on!
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Had this problem and more my first season...basic issue...FEL and tractor not on same plane (level). Also true with BH.
Pin first arm. Then minor misalignment can be overcome by careful use of hydraulics. With practice, you learn how hydraulic movements affect unpinned arm. Early on, I often had to use pry bar to reseat arm in "U." Arm forward of "U," too much "down" hydraulics. Arm high, slowly raising bucket should seat in "U."
Also learned not to remove FEL/BH outside. Sun heats fluid, preventing hydraulic reconnect without relieving pressure @ QCs...
Pin first arm. Then minor misalignment can be overcome by careful use of hydraulics. With practice, you learn how hydraulic movements affect unpinned arm. Early on, I often had to use pry bar to reseat arm in "U." Arm forward of "U," too much "down" hydraulics. Arm high, slowly raising bucket should seat in "U."
Also learned not to remove FEL/BH outside. Sun heats fluid, preventing hydraulic reconnect without relieving pressure @ QCs...
CT Jay
Bronze Member
......or take a long straight fairly narrow rod or bar, if you have something like that, and run it straight through the two holes on both FEL arms where the pins would go.....long enough to rest simultaneously through both holes....and see if the holes line up without any twist off-line, or if one of the arms is torqued and not completely squared up......i.e., the rod should be completely parallel to the bucket left-right itself if you get both arms lined up equally, and centered in the holes on both sides, and the holes should look aligned with the rod.
Or, forget the rod and just line up the two arms and sight down thru one hole in one arm across to the other hole in the other arm......go on both sides, and see if you can notice a twist in one or the other arms. Since the ends of the arms are the furthest points on the FEL from the bucket, any twist would be noticed most easily at the ends of the arms, and unfortunately that's where your arms rest on the tractor and where the pins insert.......which would correspond to the misalignment that you show in your picture. It would be like a long telescope where both ends aren't square to each other, but instead a degree or two misaligned.
Something's bent somewhere. Question is where, and how bad, and how much of a headache to fix. Guys with more machining experience than me can tell you.....or ask your dealer's mechanic if he sees this kind of thing.
Or, forget the rod and just line up the two arms and sight down thru one hole in one arm across to the other hole in the other arm......go on both sides, and see if you can notice a twist in one or the other arms. Since the ends of the arms are the furthest points on the FEL from the bucket, any twist would be noticed most easily at the ends of the arms, and unfortunately that's where your arms rest on the tractor and where the pins insert.......which would correspond to the misalignment that you show in your picture. It would be like a long telescope where both ends aren't square to each other, but instead a degree or two misaligned.
Something's bent somewhere. Question is where, and how bad, and how much of a headache to fix. Guys with more machining experience than me can tell you.....or ask your dealer's mechanic if he sees this kind of thing.
tshep
Gold Member
When mine (BX23) is off, I noticed different amounts of chrome showing on the arm cylinders. I played with them and found that pushing one 'in' manually drove the other out (I guess it's a balanced function when unplugged where the oil goes somewhere instead of the ground).
When it was time to put it back on I knew to push them even before hooking up hydraulics (I assume once hooked up 5 cubic inches, for instance, would just move each the same distance, maintaining any error). It worked at the time to 'even' them manually before quick approach.
Hope it helps!
When it was time to put it back on I knew to push them even before hooking up hydraulics (I assume once hooked up 5 cubic inches, for instance, would just move each the same distance, maintaining any error). It worked at the time to 'even' them manually before quick approach.
Hope it helps!
OP
Kayakin2
Silver Member
Great suggestions! Will use laser tomorrow to check & try adjusting!
Thanks, will report progress.
Thanks, will report progress.
CompactTractorFan
Super Member
Yep, that's the exact problem I had...
CompactTractorFan
Super Member
Also, it does not seem to want to come back off now...
OP
Kayakin2
Silver Member
Measured today and found round bearing surfaces to be 5 degrees beyond 90 degree centerline. Tried twisting back to 90 but no luck until I swapped assemblies (left to right, right to left) then set in 'U' and twisted using bucket. Difficult to control Angle but appeared to work. Exchanged assemblies back but no
Luck due to over twist. Soft & uneven ground made remount unsuccessful. Rain delayed further progress.
Luck due to over twist. Soft & uneven ground made remount unsuccessful. Rain delayed further progress.
megaboz
Platinum Member
I live on a hill, and in gravel, and it usually isn't much fun to get it on. Sometimes I only get the pin through one side. I end up just pushing the buckets and trying to re-seat it until it finally hits.
Some days it just goes on like it is supposed to, other days it takes several minutes.
If the hydraulics get pushed out to far, just keep pushing on the assembly and using the lever to pull in the pistons until it aligns about the same.
Trying to be square and level is a pain.
A recommendation in the future is to use blocks of wood to level out the bottom of the bucket and raise the whole platform a bit higher than normal where you don't need to roll the bucket so much to get it off and on.
I've ended up pushing my FEL 8 to 10 feet back and forth just to get it to play nice.
Some days it just goes on like it is supposed to, other days it takes several minutes.
If the hydraulics get pushed out to far, just keep pushing on the assembly and using the lever to pull in the pistons until it aligns about the same.
Trying to be square and level is a pain.
A recommendation in the future is to use blocks of wood to level out the bottom of the bucket and raise the whole platform a bit higher than normal where you don't need to roll the bucket so much to get it off and on.
I've ended up pushing my FEL 8 to 10 feet back and forth just to get it to play nice.
Haywire
Veteran Member
Yep, I had to do this yesterday. I actually took a wrench to a couple fittings to relieve the the pressure. I couldn't get the QDs on till I did that.
Ian
