Need propane heater ideas for insulated 42x60 Morton bldg

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14 ft. I'm having an Amish crew do the insulation ad they do excellent work. I'll get in all the insulation I can.
I had 15" of cellulose insulation blown into the ceiling of my Morten building and 6" of batt Rockwool in the walls. I'm very impressed with its performance.

I go in the building on hot sunny days to cool off before supper. I keep a de-humidifier running all summer long.
 
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I had a hanging Modine natural gas heater in my garage in AK. It had a wall mounted controller. Worked very well. Natural gas was dirt cheap when we lived in Anchorage. Electricity cost was over the moon.

Here in WA I have a propane powered salamander heater for my shop. I bring the shop up to 70F and then shut it off if I'm going to be doing anything that might create dust ( sanding ).
 
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these were all torn out of Idaho state maintenance buildings with multiple 16' tall roll up doors. they had too many complaints of not maintaining heat during winters. they ripped them out years ago, and installed the separate hanging units. i kinda wish i kept a section of one of them for my own shop though.
I mentioned the roll up doors can be tricky ;)

That said, think about this... Garage is heating to 55F with a unit heater. 16' roll up door is opened and it's 15F outside and windy. We all know what is going to happen to the inside temp when that garage door is opened.

Close the garage door, you might have a 35F indoor temp in the conditioned space. With a conventional 80% unit heater, you will now have a decent run time to bring the temperature back up to set point. However, with radiant heating, if properly laid out and sized correctly, once that roll up door is closed, you're back to feeling the heat instantaneously.

Radiant tube heaters are more expensive than conventional unit heaters (and can be more labor to install), but they will save you more on the fuel usage, and if laid out properly, feels much nicer than forced air. The added reality is if the tube heating isn't laid out to where people are going to be, no one will feel the heat (this is where size and hanging height of tube heater comes into play).

That said, unit heaters are less expensive and more "forgiving" per making a mistake if that makes sense. Just oversize it LOL
 
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The radiant tube heaters work well but have lower energy efficiency making them more costly to operate.

I have one one these in my similar sized shop 18' to the eaves

One 60K BTU heater will let me work in a T-shirt at -20oC or -4oF outside.

The nice thing about these radiant tube heaters is that they heat the stuff in the space vs trying to heat large volumes of air in a leaky building.
 
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I’d get one of those hanging furnaces also. I have one in my shop, but it’s also smaller, 28’x30’. The advantage is the heat things up pretty quickly. If your like me you’ll keep it pretty cool, say about 45 degrees and just warm it up when your working out there. A couple of ceiling fans would help.
 
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The ideal combination would be the infrared heaters that will heat the objects more then the air. That allows for much nicer working on metal items when it's cold out.
One problem with them is that you can't work in shirt sleeves if there is much of air change from doors being opened to move equipment in and out.
A forced air heater if over sized will bring the temperature up faster and recover much faster with doors being opened frequently.
Once a concrete floor gets cold it will not warm up. Radiant heat in a floor is fantastic but again it does not have a high and fast recovery of air temps.

The infrared radiant heaters over work benches or stationary equipment would be an excellent heat when combined with an conventional air heater. The furnace could take care of initial warmups, and door openings withe the infrared making for a comfortable work bench.
 
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Mr. Sixdogs, what are the details for the insulation? Interested for my own planning purposes.
 
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The radiant tube heaters work well but have lower energy efficiency making them more costly to operate.
If you don't mind, please provide information per your statement making tube heaters more costly to operate.

This is no different than a homeowner thinking that a 20 SEER2 split heat pump would save them more money vs a lower SEER2 system when connecting that new HVAC system to 30 year old existing duct work vs a 14.3 SEER2 system with brand new duct work and duct tested.
 
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Check out rigid foam for insulation instead of the traditional roll type. Metal building installers (high end) are switching to that. Individual (large) pieces glue directly onto the interior metal wall surface.
 
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Once you get the BTU sized, I'd suggest one of these. Installed in my barn/shop in a corner and love it.

 

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