Need some advice on woodchuck rifle

[Airedale]

You can use your semi auto in the northern zone, Pennsylvainia does not allow semi autos for deer. Your best bet is 223 in a bolt action, guns in this caliber are almost always very accurate, no recoil, the ammo is reasonable, fairly quiet as far as a centerfire with some range and power goes. and it will reach out to 300yds. Use factory varmint loads, if you miss the bullets pretty much explode on impact and don't go careening across the country side.

 

[fishman]

Robert,

The easiest thing would be for you to go to a local gunshop and ask them to order you in some varmint .270 loads. Bullet weight would probably be 90 - 100 grains, as opposed to the standard 130 grain loading.

Semi-auto rifles aren't known for their accuracy. The Browning BAR is perhaps the best of the lot. However, given your current requirements, and the fact that you can't even use the .270 for deer hunting, it seems like a no-brainer to trade it off for what you really want/need.

I got $525 trade on a BAR mark 2 safari I traded about a year ago which was pretty good. If your gun is minty you should be able to get around $500 at almost any gun shop. If it is equipped with the BOSS system, it's probably worth about $50 more.

Trade that sucker in on a bolt action .223, which has tons of cheap, cheap ammo available buy a decent scope and go to work with 40-50 grain bullets. Remington has an excellent reputation for accuracy, but almost any of the major manufacturers have good guns.

Confused yet? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[MadReferee]

If you are interested in a good used .22-250 take a look at this one on Auction Arms. Remington model 788 with Bushnell 4x12 scope. The high bid now is $282 and if you can get it for less than $500 it is a good deal.

Auction Arms .22-250

You can also go to Gunbroker.com or AuctionArms.com and do a search for .22-250. There are several new and used ones up for bid/sale.

 

[eieio]

Just read your post and you say you have a leupold laying around? That is an above average scope and would mate up to your .270 I used to shoot coulombiam ground squirrels with my .270 to keep in practice for deer then again I used to shoot them with my .338 to keep in practice for Elk. either way it seems like you own the scope and the rifle just mate them up and blast away.

 

[armyof1]

Robert,

Check out this site good information may help may not Sam /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://www.varmintal.net/17hmr.htm

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Thanks for the site, I am going to set up the .270 as well as get a 17 HMR just to try out. The Savage model 93 is fairly inexpensive so it will be worth it to try out. Thanks everyone.

 

[jimg]

Ive been following this thread w/ interest and really think the advice to use a 270 (or bigger) in this situation isn't the best. First, your max range is well w/i that of a .22CF (.223 or 22-250). A 270 isnt going to give any better performance but probably worse in some situations. Second, getting a thin jacketed bullet wont be as easy for a 270. The best selection would be in .17 and .22. Thin jacketed bullets will self destruct on impact rather than ricochet. Even though you launch it you still own the bullet...and they can travel a long way and still be effective.

 

[polecat]

SKS'S!!!!!!!!!!!
For all of those that have never shot an SKS!!!

I've owned plenty of gun's in my mere 37 years and we now own at this moment 2 30-06's, one 1894 30-30,one .357 w/6"barrel.one ruger p95 ruger 9mm,one remington .270, 2 sks's,and oh yeah..one ruger 10/22..- I AM TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH ROY
The 3 most versatile gun's(parts you can buy in any good gun catalog) that "I have ever seen"..are the ar-15 .223 ...ruger 10-22 and THE SKS!!! When I lived in alabama i would take my sks's with open sights and 30 round clips and measure in the north pasture..50,100,200,300,400,and 500 yards with stakes and orange flag tape... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
About 50 1 and 2 liter bottles full of water and about 100 soda cans and 1000 rounds of sks military rounds and u wanna talk about some fun!!!!ever shoot 60 rounds from the hip with 2 rifles with big clips in about 20 seconds!!!!
U"D feel like rambo ...believe me u!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Now i understand that u have a .270...so do we..and as a matter of fact my better half jist about shot the head off her last deer 4 years ago at 240 -250 yards ..yes we measured it!! with open sights !!! The .270 is a great gun and i can hit a 2 liter bottle full of water with it at 300 every time!! SO can i with my sks!!! One of my friends has a highly modified ar-15 with night vision and a silencer( yes he has the licenesing) and he can hit coyotes from his upstairs cupola in the middle of the night at 300yds.. up his power line where he puts all his road kill that he picks up..WITHOUT A SOUND...BELIEVE ME IT SOUNDS LIKE AN AIR POWERED RIFLE GOIN OFF!!! THATS IT!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
The thing i love bout the sks....NOPE let me put it to you like this ...If we were ever invaded militarily and they were coming thru maine!!!!!!!there would b 3 guns that would be on my horse as i went out 2 defend my neck of the woods!!!SERIOUSLY!! ...My sks ,my 10-22 and my nine...and you want to talk bout gorilla warfare!!!
When i lived in england my old girlfriend's boss(whom i lived with) had a bolt action .22 with a 3x9 scope..i think it was a feiwbarku or something like that ..i think it was german?? it would shoot short and long rimfire rounds and all he and i would shoot was shorts...he ,his wife and his son lived in a little cottage with a thatched roof that had 2 stories and it was set along a creek bank with a long steep hill on the back side (where i used to shoot out of the upstairs hallway window) of the house that the crest of that hill was close to a mile away...
and all along that hill were metal pig sheds..(and oh yeah ..the rifle had a screw on 8" silencer) Now a .22 short rimfire is as about as quiet as you can git...but add the silencer and you cant hear a thing...after about 100 rounds and carefully practicing and using the scope and the elevation hash marks you can hit jist about anything from a long distance away..England ..and especially in pig and cow (pasture) country there is an incredible overpopulation of rabbits!! So much to the point that the gov't actually introduced a disease that it will make a rabbit go blind within 2 yrs of it's life... but even so they are so prolific that the farmer would give me a gallon of hard cider for every 5 rabbits that i shot..Let me put it to ya'll like this ..He nicknamed the Jesse James of the 20th century!!....little di he know that i would jist sit up on the 2nd story window of my friends house that by the way had 3 foot thick walls (cob..built about 500 years ago(and that was my benchrest) and sharpshoot the rabbits with .22 shorts and a silencer).....In the early morning hours when i woke up the field would b literally covered with rabbits!!! After about 3 weeks the population for some ???strange?? reason seemed to dwindle!!! Guess who >>ME!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif SSSSOOOOOOO!!!
What 2 say..if i can reach out and touch rabbits at 1/2 a mile (one mile is 1760 yards) with .22 shorts U MY FRIEND NEED A SCOPE)!!!!!!or a bunch of practice... That is the beauty of guns that u can CHEAP!!!CHEAP!!!CHEAP!!!! ammo for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PRACTICE!!PRACTICE!!PRACTICE!!!


My point...Try buying a 1000 ronnds and jist shootin it off!!
if u r $$$ conservative ..GIT a ruger 10/22.. YOU can buy bipods....synthetic stocks ....high powered scopes that deal with windage and elevation easily!! THe biggest trick is to practice with what u have ..git a high-powered scope...!!! and set out some cans and have at it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know u have the rifle that'll take care of the problem..PERIOD!!~!!!........... BUT if u want a lot less cost on ammo ....and wanna have fun git a ruger 10/22 and PRACTICE TILL U CAN'T MISS..PERIOD!!!!!......I dont care what anyone on this forum has to say on this matter because u take a trip up here to maine to do some campin and fishin
and i'll show show you how to hit a slow movin target like a wood chuck at 300 to 500 yards with a low cost high volume round capability gun like a 10/22 or an sks in 2 days...If I can do it ...so can u!! otherwise git a 1000 round's of .270's (that'll cost u) BIGTIME...and git it right ....the .270 is an awesome riflebut it sounds like you really need the scope.. but u don't need to feed a gun like that a lot of $$$$$$$$$$ git a 10/22 or an sks(I git 1000 rounds at about $$100 ) at .10 or less a shot and you'll have a lot of fun puttin soda cans all over your field and once you get used to the bounce of a can movin after being shot and and anticipatin the next one that you'll learn how 2 literally make it dance all over the place!!!!!!!!
ALL MY LOVE AND GOD BLESS!!!
TODD
p.s. I will elaborate on the advantages of an sks in an update soon....nato. rounds ,maintenance,upkeep,durability underfire, all the ins and out and such

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I have the Ruger 10/22 (won it last year) but have not set it up yet. Was planning on doing it later this year. However, long range with the 22 is not ideal for me. Yes, I might hit them but the round has lost a lot of force already and all I will manage to do is wound them. I would rather finish them off quickly instead of wounding a bunch and hope they die slowly (which is not the most humane thing). I was told H & R makes a fairly cheap 22-250 single shot for around $200 so I might look into that. After all, I only need one shot /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Also, there is a new .204 coming out that is suppose to shoot flatter then a 22-250 and hit harder then a .17 and that intrigues me as well. Take care.

 

[Docsknotinn]

Robert, I would use the 270 myself. You could get some custom loaded ammo a lot cheaper than a new gun. Your not going to find too many calibers that have a better bullet selection than the 270. For the ranges you mention I would think the .17 and the 22 are a titch out of their league. If I had to buy a new varmit gun today it would be the new 204 Ruger. Its Fast, Flat, perfect for your needs and fairly priced.
They are starting to arrive in shops now. I'm hoping they will make a #1 sporter in that chambering.