Needed CDL?

[kevinj]

Here is a section from the Michigan web site.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Cargo_Securement_Changes_75611_7.pdf


Pay attention to the auto section as it is for under 10,000 and the heavy equip section is over 10,000.

These look close to federal but as we have seen some states have a more ridgid standard.

 

[KeithInSpace]

Here is a section from the Michigan web site.

? This only speaks to tie-down requirements, not to CDL requirements vs. Vehicle GCWR. And the sections themselves only discuss transport of individual vehicles over and under 10k lbs. A Hitachi excavator, for example, must be tied down by 4 individual chains vs. a Kubota mini-ex that only needs 2 individual chains.

Not sure of the relevance, unless I'm missing something.

 

[Builder]

I have read many threads about truck and trailer options where people warn of going over 26k truck and 10K trailer would require getting a CDL license. But you only need a CDL if you use your truck for comercial reasons.

Not always. For example, let's say you are towing a race car trailer over 10K combination over 26K and get pulled over. If you admit that you entered the car in a race/contest and won $50 and a trophy, you're in violation. Anytime you are making some sort of income, it's considered different than private.

if this was not true you would need to carry a DOT medical certificate every time your combined truck trailer weight was over 10K. All the private owner needs to do is not overload your truck/trailer and legally you should be fine. these are federal regs so they should not vary from state to state.
Chris

Med cards in PA are required for trucks with a GVWR of 17K interstate commerce. If you are commercial and have a truck as small as an F-150 and as little as a 7K trailer AND you cross state lines, you must have a med card.

 

[newbury]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/137587-big-enough-truck-7.html

Another thread with some good links.

 

[kevinj]

? This only speaks to tie-down requirements, not to CDL requirements vs. Vehicle GCWR. And the sections themselves only discuss transport of individual vehicles over and under 10k lbs. A Hitachi excavator, for example, must be tied down by 4 individual chains vs. a Kubota mini-ex that only needs 2 individual chains.

Not sure of the relevance, unless I'm missing something.

Yep, I grabbed the wrong thread. I meant to put in the tie up a bx 24. Anyway, here in Mich is much like the others, 26,000# and up for commercial is CDL territory. But there is an exemption for personal use so I could have a big ol mack and a 53 footer for personal use. The following is from the Mich CDL manual

Are There CDL Exemptions?
The following people do NOT need a Commercial Driver License (CDL):
�� ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY: Operating military vehicles with military licenses (includes National Guard).
�� POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS: Operating authorized emergency vehicles.
�� FARMERS: Operating vehicles within a 150 mile radius of their farm.
An F-endorsement is needed by farmers operating combination vehicles whose towing vehicle has a
GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more. A knowledge test, but no skills test, is required to obtain the Fendorsement.
The F-endorsement is NOT a CDL.
Farmers who carry hazardous materials in amounts requiring placards while operating combination
vehicles whose towing vehicle has a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, or a single vehicle with a GVWR
of 26,001 pounds or more, need a CDL with a hazardous materials endorsement.
�� INDIVIDUALS: Operating motor homes or other vehicles used exclusively to transport personal possessions
or family members, for non-business purposes.