Netscape/Firefox tweak

[JayC]

I'm not sure what your problem is, but have you tried the Firefox forums on Mozilla's site? I have good luck from forums in the past. Here is the link:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38

 

[getut]

Dutch 445:
There will be a VERY small percentage of sites that are not coded with web standards. Internet Explorer allows certain things that are not "standard" per se that other standards based browsers do not display correctly. Firefox is also very strict in its security. Sloppily coded javascript may brush up against security barriers in the way Firefox handles things that it just does not allow that IE does. It is a pain for those very few sites that are problematic but most of the time it is good in the long run.

thcri:
Your terminology threw me at first. You say you couldn't get Firefox to install, but I see in your screenshot that it IS installed and is running in the background, but is in fact only the plugin install that is failing. In your screenshot, you are trying to install Sun JVM. So lets troubleshoot that install. First make sure you have UN-installed any pre-existing version of Sun JVM. Look in your add/remove programs for any references to SUN JVM or J2SE runtime edition or J2SE developer edition and uninstall them and then reboot. Since you had trouble doing the install through Firefox, lets try the standalone full installer this time and it will probably fix the issue. Go here and find the link for "Download JRE for Windows" and download that 15.4 MB file to your desktop. When the download is complete, just double click the file and follow the instructions to install it. You should now have java support in Firefox.

Keep in mind that Firefox requires the Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape specific version of other plugins as well. You will also need to download other common plugins for Firefox. Here are 2 of the other common ones. Do the same, clink the links below, download the plugin and then install.
Macromedia Flash Player
Macromedia Shockwave Player

 

[getut]

Is anyone trying the adblock plugin with my filter list yet?

Any comments? Has your world changed? heheh /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Edit: I can't take complete credit for the list. I started with a list I found in a newsgroup and have heavily tweaked it.

 

[thcri]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( thcri:
Your terminology threw me at first. You say you couldn't get Firefox to install, )</font>


Getut,

You are right, I have installed Firefox but it will not display the complete page because it does need some pluggins. Installing the pluggins is where my trouble is. I have uninstalled from the Add/Remove Programs, rebooted and tried to install with no luck. I have even gone to the page you suggested to manually install it and come up with the same error. I will look at the forum you requested.

murph

 

[getut]

I doubt the Firefox forum listed will be able to help you with that since it is a java install problem.

Not to dispute you, but are you sure you downloaded the full offline version of the installer? It should only be trying to download additional files if you have the internet version of the installer and your screenshot shows it in download mode getting more files. If you have a fast internet connection and it doesn't take too long for you to download large files, try this link instead and do the install from this area instead. Make sure you download the offline version.

If you have any cookie managers and popup blockers installed. Disable them until after the java install. Let me know what Operating System you are using. Based on the look it is either pre-Windows XP or you have the new look disabled.

 

[Durbob]

I must say lately i have been disappointed with Firefox myself. It is fast but it seems i'm finding more websites that it wont work with. It also has trouble handling downloads sometimes like it doesn't know what to do with them and it doesn't list the option i want. So, i find myself using Avant browser more and more. I also have seen a website lately that says Avant is actually safer and more secure than Firefox. Avant had only one security issue and Firefox had three. When i have trouble with something with Avant then Slimbrowser usually has the fix, although i don't know how secure slimbrowser is it is a great browser. So now i keep Avant and Firefox browsers both open. I have 10 or more browsers right now to choose from and i would rate them.
1-Avant
2-Slimbrowser
3-Firefox
4-Opera
The rest i hardly use at all. Firefox security

 

[thcri]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Not to dispute you, but are you sure you downloaded the full offline version of the installer? )</font>

Exact same page and exact same file name. Pretty simple, just download it and execute it after download. Same error comes up. Just did it again in the last 5 minutes.

murph

 

[getut]

I must strongly disagree with Avant and Slimbrowser.

Here is the logic behind that statement: Both of those are "skins" that sit on top of Internet Explorer and change the look/feel and add additional functionality, but the underlying browser is still Internet Explorer... with all of the security holes of Internet Explorer. That is also why those two "browsers" display things just like IE does. Because they ARE IE.

There are no less than 7 security holes in IE right now that <font color="red"> there is no current fix for. </font> Some of those vulnerabilities have been known for over 8 months and MS still has not issued a patch. Most spyware and otherwise "bad" software requires user interaction, or tricking the user to get onto a PC. But a fair amount of those use those vulnerabilities and have the ability to load software just from visiting a site or receiving an email with a hyperlinked image or javascript to the "bad" site.

People depend too much on antivirus and spyware blockers to protect them and to be conscientious about security they should be looked at not as the defense, but as the LAST defense. If your antivirus or spyware software catches something, then something ELSE went wrong, because it made it all the way on to your PC. Close the hole that let it get there, or train the user that clicked on the scam link. With the currently unpatched holes, using email software other than Outlook or Outlook Express, and using IE only to get software updates from Windows Update, unfortunately is the only way to truly fix that problem until all holes are fixed.

Don't get me wrong. ANY and ALL software has security problems. The big difference with Firefox, is that if a security problem is found. It is usually fixed in the nightly update if you run the development branch and a fix for security problems is usually no more than 24 hours away.

 

[getut]

thcri:

If you PM me, I would be glad to work out a time to help you fix this. I have seen quite a few references to this error online. It may take some time, but I am willing to help and spend the time if you are.

This doesn't mean we'll get it resolved, but I'll give it my best shot.

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue">It is fast but it seems i'm finding more websites that it wont work with. </font>
Interesting. I've been using FireFox since it was available and I have yet to visit a web site it doesn't work with. A very few sites hve shown wrong formating, e.g., columns not lining up, but that's it.