New 4000 TEN Series from John Deere

[glennmac]

Is that tractor in the picture a 4000 TEN? It looks more like an ag tractor. Either that, or the guy driving it is mighty small. ......... eGads, they have certainly developed a lot of gimmicky terminology. (MotionMatch, to control the speed of deceleration--give me a brake.) Sounds like a bunch of marketing flimmflammery........A quick hitch, on the other hand, deserves a good look. No sane person should have to deal with the medieval torture device known as the 3ph.......I'll definitely test drive the TEN, but don't need a place at the front of the line.

 

[blurrybill]

That's great, Muhammad. Thanks. This also gives me an opportunity to thank you for this very, very helpful website. There is so much to learn related to compacts and this is the best place I have found to do it. The big question: Will I ever have enough time to go through the wealth of info shared by TBNers? Keep up the great work.

Bill

 

[Muhammad]

It looks to me like a 4610 or 4710, but could just be a 4600/4700 used as an "example" ...

 

[rancar]

Bill,

No, it's unlikely you'll ever catch up. I've been researching past threads on numerous topics for weeks. I could sit in front of the PC for hours at a time reading these threads. What's fascinating is I'm learning more and more as time goes on. TBN has an incredible number of very knowledgeable folks who readily share their knowledge and expertise. Thanks to all TBNers and to Muhammad for providing an extremely useful resource tool. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[Hillbilly]

Take a number /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[foreman81]

The 4010 is a very interesting package w/hydro and 4wd. However i'm concerned about the puny 14 pto-hp for its size. It seems anemic for tilling, snowblowing and bush hogging. Will the 410 loader be available for this one?

 

[bigpete]

The HP is similar to the older 650 and just a little less than the 670. I had the same question because it does seem to pale by the ever-increasing standards and uses for CUTS. My dealer said it will use the same loader as the 4110. I don't think the hydraulic capacity is as high as the 4110/4115 but don't quote me on that.

It will probably fit the financial and workload needs of quite a few people between the large GT and CUT markets. The PTO horsepower should be adequate for snowblowing and mowing. Wouldn't want to try to do much brush hogging or tilling though.

 

[Charliebrn]

Got to play a bit with a brand new 4110, just briefly after they pulled it out of the shop. I assume it's a lot like the 4010, but they didn't have one of these yet. They gave me the specs from a sheet faxed to them by JD (they didn't have any lit yet..nothing!) the 4010 has a Hydro transmission, 18HP engine, 14 Hp at the PTO. Maybe a bit smaller overall, at least to me, than the 4100. I'm a bit baffled on why they put such a small engine on it on a tractor with a bigger frame than the Kub BX(just 14HP at the PTO, with a lot of the competition coming from the BX with 22 HP and 17 at the PTO. Seems they had a big opportuinity to take the spotlight away from the BX, and they may have blown it. By the time you get equal power (adv HP) you get into a lot more money than the BX.

The 4110: One thing that bothered me was that the top link mount on the rockshaft housing seemed anemic, i cant see any easy way of beefing it up. I wish they had placed the fuel tank in back, where it's easier to refuel (makes no diff to me, but it would to my wife and daughter). They also still have that housing in the middle of the deck, too... right where I put my tool bag. While I'm on the subject of dislikes, I also really didn't like the hood arrangement...no easy way to get off or just open the hood to check things out before running it. Maybe it's just me, but I like popping the hood do make sure no critters have done bad things to my baby and to clean it after I'm done for the day. The salesman couldn't even figger out how to get it open, but it is a new model, maybe we missed something. (it was too cold out to really give it the once-over properly)

Some things I liked: Dash arrangement; the seat; steering cylinder placement; 3 point hitch sizing (Looked bigger than my BX, probably giving more flexibility in some implements)
I like a lot of the layout of the JD, especially the joystick arrangement that always stays with the tractor, making it easier to change implements that need hydraulic control on the front end. ( I realize a lot of this is the way it was on the 4100)

I also got to look at the new 4310 and 4510, very cool. The new electronics package for the tranny has a lot of promise...here's to hoping the bugs are worked out. Neither of these tractors had what I really wanted to see, which was the new quick-attach system for the three point, though! /w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif

Don't get me wrong, I sure don't mean to bash JD, I could have easily went with the 4100 and it would have done what I needed just fine.... just geography with the location of dealers worked against them, and the price was quite a bit higher than the BX...about $4500 at the time, similarly equipped. (Besides, it sure would be nice to easily buy all that branded clothing and goodies! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Can't wait to see the 4010.

BTW, if anyone cares, the 4110 is made and assembled in Japan, according to the plate on the side of the frame.

 

[Charliebrn]

Ok, I got another close look in warmer, dryer weather. I also got ahold of a spec sheet on the new tractors, so check it out. Still don't have dimentions and some other specs, but it's more than I've seen anywhere else.

the hood on the 4110 and 4210 are indeed plastic. So are the fenders on the 4210 and bigger, but the smaller ones have metal fenders that seem more rigid.

Corrections: This time, with a knowlegeable salesperson, the hood opens easily. You can change the air filter easily and check the oil, but to add any, the side has to come off. The 4010 thru the 4115 are made in Japan, the 4210 and larger, right here in the US.

I drove it for a bit. It seems ( I could be wrong here) that the Hydro has been improved, just seemed quieter and smoother. Some may like the dual pedal design, though having already gotten into the hang of things with the single pedal of the BX, I believe the dual will be slower in FEL work (going back and forth).

The 4210 and bigger have a great deck design, lots of room to move around and for tool bags, etc. IF I were in the market for a bigger tractor, I'd definately have to take a good look at them. The 4010 and the 4110 though, have a major flaw...the design of the FEL control is wrong. Every time I turned to see what I was doing behind me, my leg kept hitting the FEL control lever. While I like the fact that it's always on, it needs to be moved or perhaps just bent differently...it could be dangerous where it's at if you arent real careful or lock it in place.

 

[JohnMiller3]

Picture of JD 4110, 4115, & 790...

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