New 5075M is at the dealer's!

[Zebrafive]

Yes. I'm also getting the loader suspension with operator/cab mounted on/off switch. My understanding is that the electric connection for this is also handled by the single point connector.

If you have the Global Carrier (you have skid steer) there is an optional Global Cylinder Latching System that the electrical connection will be thru the multicoupler. Before the latest version of the multicoupler or with std quick coupler there was an electrical connection that had to be unhooked.

 

[Zebrafive]

No problem


I think it would be great, not sure why it would be a bad thing, unless it's extremely pricey. As long as it does what it says, I think it would be great.


More weight has only made the ride smoother for me. Think about when driving a big 3500 or F350 pickup empty vs hauling 1500 in the bed or 15000 behind the truck. Your ride will be a lot smoother because the shocks on those have such little flex in them that the extra weight will make it more springy like a car suspension. This same thing is true with the tractor, except a tractor has no suspension. THe extra weight will keep the tractor on the ground instead of bucking it all around. I have my tires full of calcium in the 5410. Calcium's definitely not my first choice now, but it was the only choice 12 years ago. I don't remember the exact figure, but it was a couple thousand pounds. I have lifted 3 large square bales at a time without the rear coming off the ground. Mind you this isn't the best practice, but I have to move them in a very tight barn where I don't have space for anything off the back.

As far as only going half full, that's a bad idea as well because when the air and liquid mix it will rust your rims. You should always either go 100% full (or just enough to cover the top of the rim) or 100% empty. Somewhere inbetween you will experience the same symptoms as calcium filled tires these days.

I would check with Rimguard about corrosion if the rim is not completely covered. That is true for Calcium, but I don't think it is for Rimguard. I think a "full" fill, valve stem at 12 o'clock is 75%.

Reason I said to check percent recommended for fill is that I read JD has revised amount down. IIRC it was to prevent tire "lope" at speed on roads.

 

[Martian]

I would check with Rimguard about corrosion if the rim is not completely covered. That is true for Calcium, but I don't think it is for Rimguard. I think a "full" fill, valve stem at 12 o'clock is 75%.

Reason I said to check percent recommended for fill is that I read JD has revised amount down. IIRC it was to prevent tire "lope" at speed on roads.

You may be right. That was second hand information, but it was good enough for me to believe!:laughing: Either way, unless your working on soft ground a lot, it's best to have them filled completely. Which as Zebra mentions is not 100% full, but mostly full, there is still an air bubble. The extra weight is always a good thing in my book.

 

[Island Farmer]

Yes. I'm also getting the loader suspension with operator/cab mounted on/off switch. My understanding is that the electric connection for this is also handled by the single point connector.

The loader suspension was the only option that I didn't get with my Bobcat A300, and again with my 5085M I didn't get it. I did believe that I was getting the single-point hydraulic connection, and my plan is to still get it. I imagine the loader suspension is very nice, but so far with the Bobcat when I have a heavy load in the bucket or grapple I just slow down.

I must say sometimes I feel like, even though I didn't chew my dealer to the bone on price, the new 5085M and thousands of dollars in implements were just not enough of a purchase to get my dealer to be very interested in me. Maybe if I had purchased for cash several 250k machines, that would have been sufficient incentive to return my calls within 48 hours.

I wish that somehow AKfish will get his problems resolved. I'd think that the JD home office would want these dealers to take better care of customers buying new equipment, knowing that there are other manufacturers of tractors waiting in the wings.

By the way pclausen, I know you agonized as I did about your wheel / tire selection. I think that you are going to be very happy with the ones that you chose, they should be plenty big, from the limited experience I've had with mine.

I'm too tired tonight to do more research about the Rimguard ... there's always tomorrow.

Island Farmer

 

[AKfish]

AKfish and Zebrafive,

Maybe one or both of you guys can educate me a little more about the single-point connection. It seems to me that having it would be a nice thing. I really don't know how often I will take the loader off of the tractor. I will be using the tractor for a lot of mowing, but the mower weighs about 1700 lbs, so it is possible that if I remove the loader I would then have to add suitcase weights to the front of the tractor.

From looking at the picture of my tractor, that connection point really does not look very clean or streamlined at all. The flat faced couplers and electrical connector on my Bobcat is very well protected and does not hang out at all.

Island Farmer

IIRC; the single-point connection was ~$800. I don't recall if that included the 3rd mid-mount loader SCV, though..

I have struggled (and still do) in the past with overpressurized flat-faced connectors on my 110! It's a real PITA!

And, when I was configuring the tractor; the options were - below the cab and behind the step connectors - or, the single point! I did NOT want to have to crawl on the ground - under the tractor - to hook/unhook those hydraulic couplers! Easy choice - in my book!

I'm not so sure how I'd go after looking at the pictures of your new 5085M. They may extend out a bit further than the single-point; but, they're certaining alot more accessible than before! :thumbsup:

That said; you just cannot get a quicker, easier system than the single-point! Push the red button - slide the locking lever - and place the hose block into the loader frame. Done.

AKfish

 

[AKfish]

I wish that somehow AKfish will get his problems resolved. I'd think that the JD home office would want these dealers to take better care of customers buying new equipment, knowing that there are other manufacturers of tractors waiting in the wings.

Island Farmer

Ya know... change is very hard for everyone. And the local guys have had it SOOO easy; for so LONG - it really sucks!

When I overhear the lead mechanic tell one of the new guys about the year the owner's told him to head down to the local Dodge dealer and that they'd have a set of keys for him... for whichever truck he liked; well, it's not like that at the moment at the dealership!!

Not, that they're not making money - just not as much on the JD lineup - as in the past. The lead guy is ALL ABOUT their Komatsu construction equipment, now. If he had his way; they'd drop the JD stuff.

So.... in the meantime - I'm just gonna roll with it. Things eventually work out... some things - just take a little longer! :cool2:

AKfish

 

[pclausen]

The electrical connection for the loader suspension will not go thru the multicoupler. No need for it to be dis connected, ever.

Does that mean the accumulator lives on the tractor, not the loader frame?

 

[pclausen]

If you have the Global Carrier (you have skid steer) there is an optional Global Cylinder Latching System that the electrical connection will be thru the multicoupler. Before the latest version of the multicoupler or with std quick coupler there was an electrical connection that had to be unhooked.

I DO have the Global Carrier. My dealer mentioned this option, but I was never able to find any info about it on the Deere website. Would you happen to have a link?

 

[pclausen]

IIRC; the single-point connection was ~$800. I don't recall if that included the 3rd mid-mount loader SCV, though..
AKfish

I don't think it was that much.

2 Function Mid-Mount Quick Couplers are in the base price. 3 Function Mid-Mount Quick Couplers adds $194.

3 Function Single Point Hydraulic Connection (Tractor Half and Loader Half) is $391.00. So the cost to upgrade from 3 Function Mid-Mount to 3 Function single point is only $197.00. Of course if you add it after the fact, it would be a lot more (probably in the $800 range you mention).

 

[Zebrafive]

Does that mean the accumulator lives on the tractor, not the loader frame?

Yes, it mounts to the rear, left side I think. tucks ahead of the lower three point arm at the axle. Manual set up has a valve at the accumulator. Electrically opoerated has solinoid valve with a switch in the cab.