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tjkadar said:
New 5425
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Will do - check on straight replacement parts, but I think I will be taking these up a notch or two.
Going to pick up parts today. Busted a right hand window out cutting hay. I guess I had the front of the mower a tad low...
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Going to pick up parts today. Busted a right hand window out cutting hay. I guess I had the front of the mower a tad low...
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I like those longhorns you are raising. Pretty cool looking cows. Years ago, we wound up with some steers that must have had delusions of being longhorns. Their horns were so wide, we couldn't load them on the trailer going forward. We had to load them backwards and left their heads sticking out of the rear. 
I'm done with my fields. If we don't get any rain, all I will be doing is dragging them to bust up manure. I haven't had to mow the yard in over two weeks.
I just finished putting the arena drag on... we'll see how that goes. I'm a bit worried about taking down half the arena with that big of a tractore.
Currently, I've just folded the armrest in the up position. At least the don't get in the way now.
I'm done with my fields. If we don't get any rain, all I will be doing is dragging them to bust up manure. I haven't had to mow the yard in over two weeks.
I just finished putting the arena drag on... we'll see how that goes. I'm a bit worried about taking down half the arena with that big of a tractore.
Currently, I've just folded the armrest in the up position. At least the don't get in the way now.
It does sound like a great deal. That would be with 18.4x30 bias rear tires?tjkadar said:
If you don't mind saying, how much more $ was the 25 series you ended up with?
Hope your other problem is solved. Did they have to replace an internal control valve?
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That is with the 18.4 x 30 bias tires. My tractor set me back about an extra $6,000.
They replaced the rockshaft valve. I believe that mounts on the exterior of the rockshaft cover on the right side. Haven't had an issue since they did the repair. Tractor works great. I can finish my fields in far less time then it took with the M6800, plus I'm running at a lower rpm burning a little less fuel.
They replaced the rockshaft valve. I believe that mounts on the exterior of the rockshaft cover on the right side. Haven't had an issue since they did the repair. Tractor works great. I can finish my fields in far less time then it took with the M6800, plus I'm running at a lower rpm burning a little less fuel.
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In my opinion, measured solely by seat of the pants, the John Deere has a lot more power. With the M6800, I could not use the chisel plow portion of our 8' Reveal 4-N-1. It would either bog the tractor down or cause it to sit and spin. With the 5425, I can drop the chisel plows all the way down and run in 4th gear, low range. Huge difference in grunt power between the two.
Even handling implements like the Reveal or a 8' bush hog, the John Deere comes out ahead. Either implement would put a strain on the M6800 when lifting it to transport height. It would make the M6800 squat in the rear and light on the front. Doesn't bother the 5425 at all. Both are done with the FELs on.
I can bush hog with the 5425 in the economy position through stuff that would make the M6800 drop a few revs at 540 PTO rpm. The 5425 is a lot more tractor. But then again, the 5425 does cost a lot more money. You do get what you pay for... both machines are great tractors. The 5425 is just a bit more capable.
Even handling implements like the Reveal or a 8' bush hog, the John Deere comes out ahead. Either implement would put a strain on the M6800 when lifting it to transport height. It would make the M6800 squat in the rear and light on the front. Doesn't bother the 5425 at all. Both are done with the FELs on.
I can bush hog with the 5425 in the economy position through stuff that would make the M6800 drop a few revs at 540 PTO rpm. The 5425 is a lot more tractor. But then again, the 5425 does cost a lot more money.
You do get what you pay for... both machines are great tractors. The 5425 is just a bit more capable.farmguy
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Thanks for the real world info, it helps me understand a little better why the Deere's cost a little more and weight is just as important as horsepower when choosing a tractor. For example a 5425 4wd with Pwr Reverser open station costs around 31 grand, that's about the same as a M9540 equipped the same way.
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I really enjoyed my M6800. It was a very good tractor, and after driving a friend's New Holland, I thought it was also a very refined tractor. Now that I have a John Deere, I realize how 'rough' the Kubota was. Remember, I'm only comparing an open station Kubota to a top of the line utility cab John Deere... the John Deere's controls are laid out very intuitively. Within 15 minutes of driving the John Deere, I could already place my hand on all the different controls without looking. It is a nicely laid out cab.
The gear shift on the John Deere has a nice tight pattern with a light throw. The first time I drove the tractor I was shifting from 1st to 3rd and wound up grinding gears. I had to stop, look at the shift pattern and try again. The problem was the Deere's throw between gears was much, much tighter than the Kubota's. Where 3rd was on the Kubota was where park was on the Deere!
The ride is very comfortable. The steering also has a better, lighter feel. It really feels like I'm driving a large car rather than a tractor. Cycle time on the loader is quick and in general, it has a lot more hydraulic power than the Kubota.
John Deere does command a higher price tag. Part of that is the John Deere name. The only other vehicular brand name I know with the recognition of Deere is Harley Davidson. I don't know of any other brand (selling planes, trains, boats, helicopters, cars, bikes, or tractors) that has a John Deere or Harley Davidson type store that sell nothing but swag.
We got a pretty good price on our John Deere and I'm very pleased with the product. There were some teething pains, but the dealer bent over backwards to fix them. That is a lot more than I can say for any Kubota dealer I've ever dealt with (local issue only and not a reflection of Kubota as a whole).
The Kubota is a good tractor. John Deere is a good tractor. In this case, the 5425 is a much better tractor than a M6800. That might not be the same depending on which model is compared to which across the manufacturers' line-up.
I think we're all very lucky. There are a ton of good tractors out there which means we have a lot from which to choose. That isn't a bad thing. For me, the 5425 was the best fit. For someone else, it might be a McCormick, Mahindra, New Holland, Duetz, Kioti, Jinma, Massey, Montana, or some other brand. I wouldn't mind owning one of each!
The gear shift on the John Deere has a nice tight pattern with a light throw. The first time I drove the tractor I was shifting from 1st to 3rd and wound up grinding gears. I had to stop, look at the shift pattern and try again. The problem was the Deere's throw between gears was much, much tighter than the Kubota's. Where 3rd was on the Kubota was where park was on the Deere!
The ride is very comfortable. The steering also has a better, lighter feel. It really feels like I'm driving a large car rather than a tractor. Cycle time on the loader is quick and in general, it has a lot more hydraulic power than the Kubota.
John Deere does command a higher price tag. Part of that is the John Deere name. The only other vehicular brand name I know with the recognition of Deere is Harley Davidson. I don't know of any other brand (selling planes, trains, boats, helicopters, cars, bikes, or tractors) that has a John Deere or Harley Davidson type store that sell nothing but swag.
We got a pretty good price on our John Deere and I'm very pleased with the product. There were some teething pains, but the dealer bent over backwards to fix them. That is a lot more than I can say for any Kubota dealer I've ever dealt with (local issue only and not a reflection of Kubota as a whole).
The Kubota is a good tractor. John Deere is a good tractor. In this case, the 5425 is a much better tractor than a M6800. That might not be the same depending on which model is compared to which across the manufacturers' line-up.
I think we're all very lucky. There are a ton of good tractors out there which means we have a lot from which to choose. That isn't a bad thing. For me, the 5425 was the best fit. For someone else, it might be a McCormick, Mahindra, New Holland, Duetz, Kioti, Jinma, Massey, Montana, or some other brand.
I wouldn't mind owning one of each!