New "B" series catalog..

[bandit67]

I'd probably agree myself, while position control seems to have its advantages I've never found myself cursing at the quater inch control.

The quarter inch control doesn't seem to be negatively impacting sales. It'll be a long time before anyone else starts to give Kubota a run for their money in the small compact segment, so I don't think they'll have to start considering position control on more models until that time.

 

[art]

I agree with Neil on this! To know how to use it you can set a grade far easier with the quarter inching valve then the so called position control as those numbers are only a guide.

Only a guide? They are not dead on to anything set in stone as there are to many things that make a difference in the hitch adjustment itself. With the quarter inching valve you use the ground as your center point to focus and then you raise to skim or drop to dig! With 1/4" increments at the lever.

I have yet to see anyone that could raise or lower a position control lever that has tried to tell me they are better 1/4", 1/2" or 1" hitch adjustment at a time!!!!!!!!!!! Try it and you will see how hard it is to do! There are people that say they have to have it and that is fine, but for the people who look at it with an open mind and use it they have found it very easy to a gading job without experience that even many that call themselves experienced could not have done it as accurately.

It is just a matter of choice, after all we still have people that love the old farmall M, they may do a lot of work with it, but chances are a new M-series would get a lot more done in a day and the operator would be a lot less tired. That still not might be enough to overcome the pride of rebuilding an old tractor and using it for what you can.

 

[ChuckinNH]

Both Neil, and Bandit are completely correct, of course. Kubota is king of the hill, and will likely stay that way in the forseeable future. Lack of position control, or a standard quick change bucket system on the loader, and those kind of things will not impact Neil's sales at all probably, or certainly not to a large degree. I guess I was saying that adding those features might pay for itself in one way, or another. Kubota has such a wonderful reputation for reliability, and the implements they provide are so well designed, and implemented /intergrated that they don't need to do anything more. They didn't need to fix the poor seats on the B series either, but they sure made a lot of friends by doing it. Put another way, I probably wouldn't consider a 2000 series Deere if it didn't have those things, because Kubota is such a given....... but I am, though I do feel that the 2520 is completely outclassed by the B2630/B3030.

 

[bandit67]

I rented a B7800 with a box blade for a day last fall. I'd never used a box blade in my life, but have used rear blades, rock rakes, tillers, mowers on the 3 pt hitch. Of the 8 hours rental, I spent only 2-3 hours using the box blade to level a newly expanded portion of driveway. This was done after a significant amount of digging out of a hillside so that I could expand the drive. I also did some levelling of some fill I moved to the back yard.

I found the quarter inching to be very easy to use, and I did a darn good job of grading out the new drive area to prepare it for laying 3/4" crusher stone. I also used the box blade to spread the crusher stone. The whole job turned out great, and that's when I realized that the 1/4 inching setup wasn't as bad as it appeared in so many of the posts I'd read.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

wasn't as bad as it appeared in so many of the posts I'd read.

Thus the problem with internet forums. Everyone is an expert, even if they've got no pratical experience with what they are talking about. You gotta take things with a grain of salt and make your own opinions by getting in the seat yourself. (Thats not to say there is not a huge amount of value and information on these websites...)

 

[Volfandt]

When I was building and useing a boxblade to finish grade my property, I didn't even have the benefit of a qtr inching valve. My old TE-20's 3PH was either up, down or slowly creeping in either direction and I managed quite well with it. I also worked a pond scoop, disc, turning plow, boom pole and potatoe plow w/ it with no problems. I did have to use check chains when I used a bush hog and they were "true" set it and forget it adjustments

Position control probably won't be the main decider if I ever go larger, right now cab / no cab seems to be

I'm also going to peep out these new B's too, they have a few features that highly interest me.

 

[rickster]

When I was shopping for my tractor I looked at the kioti ck20 with position control. I wasn't impressed with the CRACKING LOADER PROBLEMS and the cheezy fix job kioti came up with! I decided on a B7800 with 1/4 inching and plenty of Kubota dealers in the area!!

 

[DmansPadge]

When I was shopping for my tractor I looked at the kioti ck20 with position control. I wasn't impressed with the CRACKING LOADER PROBLEMS and the cheezy fix job kioti came up with! I decided on a B7800 with 1/4 inching and plenty of Kubota dealers in the area!!

Hahaha! That is stirring the pot!!

 

[DmansPadge]

I did have to use check chains when I used a bush hog and they were "true" set it and forget it adjustments

I use check chains also when mowing. I have the 1/4 inching valve but even if I had position control I would still use them. It takes the weight off the hydraulics and you don't have to worry about the 3pt leaking down during long mowing sessions.

 

[Bota2620]

In my sitaution I have a quarter mile driveway of crushed shell, I'm sure it will take some practice with the box blade the first couple of times to get use to controlling it vertically, but from what I read I don't think I'll be disapointed with the 1/4 inching. I will also need to clear and grade about an acre of land and agian after getting use to the equipment I think I'll be able to complete the job with fairly good results with my new 2620.

Spoke with the dealer today-FEL two weeks from Georgia and MMM one week from Texas. Maybee by let Feb early March I'll be able to post with some experience. I'm expecting more than a fancy lawnmower, but 75% of this machines usefull life will be used for mowing.

AKKubota-I'm not sure about the chain situation, but Bandit posted on page 1, third post of this thread a link to a dealer site giving the new B series specs.

Roadkill95-I spoke with the dealer quiclky about BH costs and If I remeber correctly he said 8K. I'm in flat sandy Florida and dismissed the need for one very quickly after hearing the price. I would only need a BH for clearing some ditches along my driveway and removing stumps. I was told the 2620 with BH would not be large enough to move stumps bigger than 12" diam. I renting if I ever need one.