New Brakes On 336D

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#21  
mark777 said:
I was thinking exactly the same.

A few years ago the previous owner of a 1610D ruined the case by trying to remove the brake drum and cracked the case due to forgetting (or not knowing) to remove the clip retainer. $700. plus freight for an empty case.

Is there a retainer clip that I need to remove?? Where is it located? As I previously mentioned, neither my parts book or service manual show it. I know that these books are not 100% accurate. Please advise. By the way, my brake shoes are already cleaned up as well as the inside of the cover. I just need to remove that stubborn drum!
 
   / New Brakes On 336D #22  
I don't remember my 3110D having a retainer clip. Just the big nut & washer.That drum probably hasn't been off since it was installed some 25 or so years ago.
 
   / New Brakes On 336D #23  
Sometimes they pull of & sometimes they are froze. It may require some heat.
 
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#24  
Last night I did hit it with some heat. I concentrated the flame on the center part of the cast brake drum which is outside of the spline shaft. I moved the heat all the way around the center of the brake drum casting. I also continued spraying with PB Blaster in addition to tapping with hammer. I did not want to heat too much for fear of melting the rubber seal washer behind the center of the drum. Still stuck!
 
   / New Brakes On 336D #25  
Try DieselMechanics wax treatment. Seems like this is a perfect opportunity to give it a go. :eek: Do a search on "paraffin wax." Under the discussion of repairs and then "Wax used on rusted parts"

Mike
 
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#26  
Brake drum FINALLY broke free last night. I used larger tip on torch and continued spraying with PB BLaster. When I again tapped edge of drum with hammer, I could see Blaster moving in and out of spline. That is when I knew that I was close. The rubber seal looks fine. I just have to clean up rust in cast housing. Brake drum will be sand blasted this weekend. Since no rain water could have gotten inside brake drum/casting area due to tight gasket seal, I believe rust was caused by condensation. But then again, wouldn't condensation form only on the exterior metal surfaces and not inside. Hmmm. Upon further thinking-- if tractor was run outside in cold winter weather, hydraulic fluid would get warm/hot. When parking tractor at end of day in unheated area, the housing cast metal would cool off at a much faster rate than the fluid. Since the hot fluid is on the other side of the casting wall, that would cause moisture condensation on the other side (Brake housing side). Does that sound right?? Thank to all for your valuable input. By the way, I will put either anti-seize or silicon on spline prior to attaching drum.
 
   / New Brakes On 336D #27  
Likely a drain plug in the bottom of the brake housing....remove it and leave it out. The closed system increases condensation.
 
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LMTC said:
Likely a drain plug in the bottom of the brake housing....remove it and leave it out. The closed system increases condensation.

Unfortunately, there is not a drain plug in the bottom of the housing. Tomorrow, I will get the sandblasted drum and reinstall the entire left side. Moving on, I have taken apart the other side (right side). Surprisingly, there was no rust as compared to the left side. Just a lot of brake dust and frozen shoes. Now for the kicker. The large 32mm nut that secures the drum to the spline (pinion) is absolutely frozen. I tried all of the methods. I was using my 10 inch Craftsman 1/2 ratchet with a 2+ foot steel pipe over it for added leverage. Guess what? I broke the ratcheting mechanism. That was a first for me. That nut is so very tight, that the rear wheel was spinning as I tried to loosen the nut. I even locked the differential pedal and chocked the wheel! Tomorrow I will get a large breaker bar. That will either loosen the nut or break the shaft. This is what happens when working on a 25 year old tractor.
 
   / New Brakes On 336D #29  
If not a drain plug, perhaps a steel vent tube protruding from the top. If so, fit a piece of plastic/rubber hose over it long enough to hang down....so it doesn't take rain....and this will help equalize moisture and temperature inside and out.
 
   / New Brakes On 336D #30  
do not forget to try the wax--it really does work.:)

Mike
 

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