new f-250 mpg?

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   / new f-250 mpg? #61  
I've seen this discussion so many times, and the concept of cost always comes up. To me, it's just a wasted thought process; the real cost differential is so minor, it just shouldn't play a huge role in deciding between gas or diesel.

You can analyze the initial cost difference any which way you want, but when you do come up with a number, it's a piddly amount when split across the years you'll own the truck, particularly after factoring in resale. The longer you own the truck, the less significant the number becomes.

RE ongoing costs - again, it's a wash for most folks. I'd be very surprised to see a difference of more than $200-300 a year, once everything is taken into account. The difference could go either way depending on the vehicles compared and your geographic location, but still - take a ride in both, and buy the one you like. Some folks can't stand the sound or smell of a diesel, even though they've gotten far quieter. Some folks can't stand the relatively anemic acceleration of a gas engine, paticularly off the line with a load on it. Point is - they are such different trucks, who cares about $25 a month one way or the other on a purchase of this magnitude? Sheesh...I'm guessing many of you folks spend more than that on beer... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Me - I've gone diesel and will never go back. I've got a 97 F-250 PSD 7.3, and a 2003 E-350 Quigley 4x4 PSD (also a 7.3). Cost didn't even enter the decision process - I keep my vehicles for many years, and I want to enjoy it every time I get behind the wheel.

My reasons for going diesel:

- I like knowing that regardless of what I tow, the vehicle is more than up to the task.

- Diesels can be easily and safely modified for significantly more power than stock. Pop in a chip, open up the exhaust and intake, and add some temp/tranny/boost gauges to keep an eye on things. The difference is huge.

- I take road trips, and I like the additional range you get on a tank of fuel, particularly when towing; you can argue all day long what the real mileage difference is between gas/diesel, but when towing, there is absolutely no comparison - mileage is often more than double in a diesel when towing. In my van, I can load it to the gills, and towing an 8K boat/trailer go 700 miles without refueling (46G at 16MPG.)

- I like dropping into 4WD low, and being able to idle up anything. There's no comparison in low-end torque between gas and diesel engines.

- I like knowing that my vehicles have the potential for reducing our dependency on foreign oil. Bio-diesel, while relatively new and currently more expensive, pollutes way less than a gas truck and supports US interests. The price differential is shrinking, and more and more places are carrying it.

My advice would be to remove money from the decision process. There are many more important factors to consider.
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #62  
<font color="blue"> I'm pretty sure, unless it was extended, that the write-off ends Dec 31st. </font>

The tax break doesn't end, it has been changed to a limit of $25,000 rather than $100,000. This decuction is for a business vehicle, not a personal vehicle of 6000 pounds (GVWR) or more.
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #63  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ( My advice would be to remove money from the decision process. There are many more important factors to consider.))</font>

-So if money is not an issue, so these items you stated are a wash (Pop in a chip, open up the exhaust and intake, and add some temp/tranny/boost gauges...) That is about $1,500
added on. It money was a non issue this thread would not be here or 99 of the people here. We would have the dealer do all.

-I did not think people used 4 low, no reason to.

I think a better way to say it is “do not use money as a deciding factor”. It is not the end all deciding one, but one that much be taking into consideration. Plus again there are a lot of other variables that must be taking into account.

All I know is that I do not get my Money on an HP Laser Color Printer so I would do my homework first.

Here are my savings from me going from a diesel to gas (in my application)..in the attachement above.
 

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   / new f-250 mpg? #64  
Uh, you replied to MY post, but quoted DaNag. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #65  
sorry gator, I am actually trying to work at work and do TBN.....:)
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #66  
If you've got a business it's a business vehicle. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif The $25,000 was there before the $100,000. They just upped it the last few years.
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #67  
chucko

My 2004 F250 4x4 5.4 liter extended cab gets around 11.9 mpg and that is with 3.73 gears, heavy duty 6 speed manual transmission.

Solo
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #68  
<font color="blue"> If you've got a business it's a business vehicle. </font>

When I buy my truck, I won't be claiming the $25K. I need the truck for my Tree Farm business, but most of the miles will be driven for my daytime job -- far exceeding the 50% limit required to use the tax deduction.
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #69  
<font color="blue">most of the miles will be driven for my daytime job -- far exceeding the 50% limit required to use the tax deduction. </font>

Talk to your accountant, you might be able to provide yourself the truck as part of your "compensation" - might be a tax advantage there, not sure.

The tax code is far kinder to large & small business than to the individual. Run everything that you legally can thru the business. A good accountant should more than pay for his/her fee by saving you $$$ on your taxes.
 
   / new f-250 mpg? #70  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Talk to your accountant, you might be able to provide yourself the truck as part of your "compensation" - might be a tax advantage there, not sure.

The tax code is far kinder to large & small business than to the individual. Run everything that you legally can thru the business. A good accountant should more than pay for his/her fee by saving you $$$ on your taxes.)</font>

I agree on all counts. Incorporation has saved me a ton of money, that and a good CPA who understands self-employed people and small corporations. My CPA consistently saves me 5 to 10 times his annual fees.

Pete
 
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