New Ford Superduty owners beware (diesels)

[slowzuki]

All common rail diesels run high pressures and don't like dirty or contaminated fuel. Low sulphur is the norm for european diesels which Bosch supplies a pump or two for, I'd bet its being used as a scape goat. We've been running it up here for a while, no problems here but I don't have any common rail stuff.

 

[BigBoyinMS]

I have had cummins powered trucks for 16 years, they have a WIF light and it works. If it didn't work then that would be in the fault code memory, how could they deny coverage?

JB

My '04 3500 RAM with the 5.9 will flash the light on the dash and "Ding Ding Ding" if my filter housing has a teaspoon of water. The 6.7 Cummins trucks have a light and bell too but my brothers never went off and the last person to have the issue that I spoke to said his didn't either.

 

[JB4310]

My '04 3500 RAM with the 5.9 will flash the light on the dash and "Ding Ding Ding" if my filter housing has a teaspoon of water. The 6.7 Cummins trucks have a light and bell too but my brothers never went off and the last person to have the issue that I spoke to said his didn't either.

OK then there would be nothing in the computers memory saying he ignored the WIF light. If the system failed to alert him they should cover the repairs IMO.

JB

 

[frischtr]

Point is, they will try to find a way to get out of warranty claims. Some dealership techs have posted online about management pressure to find reasons to deny claims. Like it or not, it is up to you, the owner, to make up for the manufacturers shortcomings as far as filtration and water separation. I haven't heard of these problems occurring to anyone who adds better filters and changes them at regular intervals.

 

[deerefan]

All true...And one shouldn't have to worry about this kind of garbage on a $55k+ truck.

As much as I wanted a diesel I passed due to all of this garbage...Went with a 6.2 gas instead.

If a lot of folks went with what they needed instead of wanted, these trucks wouldn't be 55k. A diesel is overkill for most folks. But I will admit, there is nothing like that power under your foot. I have owned several and they keep getting more expensive to own and maintain.

 

[WilliamBos]

At least you Ford guys have a "water in fuel" light that works.
A year or so ago my brothers Dodge with the 6.7 Cummins quit on him. The Dodge dealer said it was water and rust in the fuel and refused to cover it under warranty. There was never a light or audible warning. The repair was just under $20,000 but luckily his insurance covered it. Since then I've read online and heard first hand of others getting the same story from Dodge dealers around the country. The last one I heard of was a local guy. Same "water in fuel" story and $16,000 repair estimate. They told him they had the fuel tested but when he asked for a copy of the results he was told they couldn't provide them. He ended up flushing the system and replacing injectors on his own and never had another issue.
Every manufacturer sucks. You would think they would just raise the price of the truck another grand and put a real filtering system on them on the production line.

What did they do, an inframe?

 

[5030]

I wasn't aware that anyone did in frame o'hauls on small diesels. Easier to yank it and install another reman engine.

 

[WilliamBos]

I wasn't aware that anyone did in frame o'hauls on small diesels. Easier to yank it and install another reman engine.

For that much money, it had better be brand new!

 

[CAgnoli]

So let me get this straight, you add a bottle of Ford's cetane booster EVERY tank of fuel? I don't know how much fuel you go through but I'll be damned if I'm gonna keep upteen bottles of cetane booster on hand for every tank and when I run out, got to scramble to find something else. I'm re-evaluating the purchase of this truck and may sell it, and then Ford can kiss my ***. I'll be done with being a Ford customer.

Yup, I use 4 oz of the ford cetane boost at every fill up, always have, always will. It's cheap insurance for me, ends up costing me about two bucks a tank.

Now, as to the HPFP problem in these trucks, ive read that the NTSB is looking into it, and I happen to think the government will force the manufacturers to address it. If this keeps happening, I'm sure a class action suit will be brought against Ford. Besides. All the bad press in the forums and on YouTube won't be good for business, so truck sales will suffer until the issue input to bed.

I stand by my earlier statement though, ford didn't cause the, the EPA did, and until we the voting public do something about that our diesel trucks, and gasoline boats will suffer the consequences of an over zealous government agency. Ethanol has destroyed far more boats than the ULSD has trucks to date, but I'll bet the trucks catch up.....

 

[General Lee]

Point is, they will try to find a way to get out of warranty claims. Some dealership techs have posted online about management pressure to find reasons to deny claims. Like it or not, it is up to you, the owner, to make up for the manufacturers shortcomings as far as filtration and water separation. I haven't heard of these problems occurring to anyone who adds better filters and changes them at regular intervals.

Then the dealers would be denying claims based on the use of aftermarket parts.