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[KWentling]

I would second that. I've used them on a couple of trailers and they work great.

We've used these for fastening wood to metal and they worked pretty well. The wings make the hole in the wood larger than the screw body and snap off when they hit the metal. There are small fins under the head that aid in getting the heads flush.

#12x2" Reamer Tek Torx/Star Head Self-Drilling Wood to Metal Screws - for Flatbeds, Trailers or Fastening Wood to Steel - T-3 Torx Screw H

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Might be cheaper but I doubt the same performance all things considered. I-shaped cross section is the most efficient way to design simple engineered beam where bending strength is driving factor vs. shear strength (web strength). The web does relatively little to help with bending strength. Trusses are another level of strength, where instead of relying on the web for stability and shear loads, the truss members are instead compression/tension members but they generally take more vertical space to be efficient... a la roof trusses.

Sometimes space is a restriction requiring stronger materials or more efficient space for bending strengths... especially for long spans. Nowadays it is cheaper to manufacture a wood engineered I beam than a the raw material cost of say a 2x12 fir and can handle longer spans and are more stable.

Sorry for what might appear as a lecture here but I am guessing many don't understand why all the choices in joists.

Like I said, Same performance.

I paid $1839 in 2002 for mine, including rim board and $511 for advantech flooring. For 24’ x 30’

 

[fatjay]

Needed to figure out a better way to get the joists up to where we needed them. It was killing us, my buddy on the ground lifting it all up, them me on the scaffolding lifting it the rest of the way. He stood up once he got on the scaffolding on wednesday and his head went into a beam already placed resulting in a concussion. Nothing thursday and today because of it.

And it's good because today I had a brilliant idea. I had worked a dozen different ways but nothing was working. Until that eureka moment. Drywall lift. my lift goes up 11', clears the scaffolding, then we can lift it in place, and handles 12' drywall. We lifted it, then swung it around with a guide rope, then put it into place easily. I can't believe we did it 2 days the hard way almost killing ourselves.

I took off the scaffolding wheels and put the points on cinder blocks with pins to keep it from moving. it was perfect, couldn't have been easier.

 

[Citydude]

Needed to figure out a better way to get the joists up to where we needed them. It was killing us, my buddy on the ground lifting it all up, them me on the scaffolding lifting it the rest of the way. He stood up once he got on the scaffolding on wednesday and his head went into a beam already placed resulting in a concussion. Nothing thursday and today because of it.

And it's good because today I had a brilliant idea. I had worked a dozen different ways but nothing was working. Until that eureka moment. Drywall lift. my lift goes up 11', clears the scaffolding, then we can lift it in place, and handles 12' drywall. We lifted it, then swung it around with a guide rope, then put it into place easily. I can't believe we did it 2 days the hard way almost killing ourselves.

I took off the scaffolding wheels and put the points on cinder blocks with pins to keep it from moving. it was perfect, couldn't have been easier.

Very innovative!

 

[fatjay]

I was about to buy a scissor lift. I was at my wits end. turns out brains baking in the sun all day don't think very well.

 

[dragoneggs]

I was about to buy a scissor lift. I was at my wits end. turns out brains baking in the sun all day don't think very well.

That idea came none too soon! Sorry you didn't have your Eureka moment earlier. Keep chugging... and safety first! :thumbsup:

 

[sodamo]

I likely would have had my tractor with forks by now LOL

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Good idea. Not sure how high my drywall lift goes, I forget about it.

 

[fatjay]

I likely would have had my tractor with forks by now LOL

The idea was to lift them up with my pallet forks on my bobcat, but it's engine blew up. I don't know now though, the drywall lift seems easier. It lifts it exactly where I need it instead of putting it at the front.

 

[sodamo]

The idea was to lift them up with my pallet forks on my bobcat, but it's engine blew up. I don't know now though, the drywall lift seems easier. It lifts it exactly where I need it instead of putting it at the front.

One of the benefits of the Genie lift. Like your ingenuity