New Guy First Tractor

[LS Tractor Owner]

You mentioned LS and the dealer being further away.... my dealer is over 500 miles away... never needed him for anything more than shipping filters...

They are well built machines, so much that the "name brands" use LS to make their tractors for them. LS comes with all the costly 'extras' that the others charge for, as you mentioned. I now know of 4 other LS tractor owners in our local area.... there is no local dealer.... that has to say some good things about them.

Good luck with your search / decision... get one that you feel comfortable on and operating. That is the most important part.

 

[jeff9366]

I am looking at buying my first tractor. I am looking at the 24.9 HP tractors. I live on 10 acres, lightly wooded. Mostly flat as its overgrown farm land.

I am buying this mostly as a toy. Not worried about how quick i can do something.

Shop the Kubota L2501. Ample weight and width for ten fairly level acres. No Tier IV emissions equipment.

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When considering a tractor purchase bare tractor weight first, tractor horsepower second, rear axle width third, rear wheel/tire ballast fourth.

Kubota L2501

2014 - Standard L Series
Compact Utility tractor
Series next: Kubota L3301

Manufacturer: Kubota

Kubota L2501 Engine:
Kubota 1.6L 3-cyl diesel
Kubota L2501 Power:
Engine (gross): 24.8 hp [18.5 kW]
Engine (net): 23.9 hp [17.8 kW]
Gear PTO (claimed): 20.5 hp [15.3 kW]
Hydro PTO (claimed): 19 hp [14.2 kW]

Kubota
diesel
3-cylinder
liquid-cooled
100.47 ci [1.6 L]
Rated RPM: 2200

Bore/Stroke: 3.4x3.6 inches [86 x 91 mm]
Power (gross): 24.8 hp [18.5 kW]
Fuel system: direct injection

Transmission:
Type: hydrostatic
Gears: infinite (3-range) forward and reverse

Capacity:
Fuel: 10 gal [37.9 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Control: position control
Rear lift (at ends): 1918 lbs [870 kg]
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 1389 lbs [630 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: transmission*
live*
Clutch: overrunning dry disc
Rear RPM: 540 (1.375)

Dimensions
4WD Gear Weight: 2601 lbs [1179 kg]
4WD Hydro Weight: 2623 lbs [1189 kg]
Wheelbase: 63.3 inches [160 cm]
4WD Length: 106.3 inches [270 cm]
Width: 55.1 inches [139 cm]
Height (ROPS): 91.7 inches [232 cm]
4WD Ground clearance: 13.4 inches [34 cm]
Wheelbase: 63.3 inches [160 cm]

Kubota L2501 attachments:
front-end loader
Loader type: Kubota LA525
Height (to pin): 94.3 inches [239 cm]
Lift to full height (at pin): 1131 lbs [513 kg]
Lift to 1.5m (at pin): 1490 lbs [675 kg]
Lift to 1.5m (at 500mm): 1182 lbs [536 kg]
Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD*
4x4 MFWD 4WD
Steering: power
Brakes: mechanical wet disc
Cab: Two-post folding ROPS.

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Pressure: 2205 psi [152.0 bar]
Pump flow: 5.15 gpm [19.5 lpm]
Steering flow: 3.13 gpm [11.8 lpm]

Page information:
Last update: January 2, 2019
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LS brand tractors are good competition to Kubota. LS and Kioti keep Kubota from becoming complacent. LS has a thin dealer network. I will guess LS compact tractor market share at 1%

 

[jeff9366]

Is having the rear tires filled a good idea?

There are two reasons to "load" rear tires 50% to 75% with liquid.

1. Extra weight improves tire traction on higher horsepower tractors. A compact tractor with <26 horsepower usually has enough weight without loaded tires to maintain traction.

2. Loaded rear tires lower tractor's center-of-gravity, increasing stability. Your land is flat and most of the tractors you are shopping a fairly wide at 55" to 60". Loaded tires not necessary for stability on ten acres of flat land.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

And some of the LS specs for the comparison to the L2501:


LS XG3025 Power
Engine (gross): 24.4 hp
18.2 kW
Gear PTO (claimed): 19.2 hp
14.3 kW
Hydro PTO (claimed): 17.1 hp
12.8 kW
LS XG3025 Engine
Mitsubishi 1.3L 3-cyl diesel
Fuel tank: 7.4 gal
28.0 L
Engine details ...
Mechanical
Chassis: 4x4 MFWD 4WD
Differential lock: mechanical rear
Steering: power
Brakes: wet disc
Cab: Two-post folding ROPS.
Transmissions: 12-speed sync shuttle
hydrostatic
Transmission details ...
Photos
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Hydraulics
Type: open center
Pump flow: 7.9 gpm
29.9 lpm
Total flow: 12.5 gpm
47.3 lpm
Steering flow: 4.6 gpm
17.4 lpm
Tractor hitch
Rear Type: I
Rear lift (at ends): 1808 lbs
820 kg
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 1433 lbs
650 kg
Power Take-off (PTO)
Rear PTO: independent
Clutch: wet disc
Rear RPM: 540 (1.375)
Engine RPM: 540@2509
Dimensions & Tires
Wheelbase: 66 inches
167 cm
Weight: 2434 lbs
1104 kg
Front tire: 7-14
Rear tire: 11.2-24
Full dimensions and tires ...
LS XG3025 attachments
front-end loader
backhoe
Attachment details ...

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Some engine specs:


Engine Detail
Mitsubishi S3L2
diesel
3-cylinder
liquid-cooled
Displacement: 80.4 ci
1.3 L
Bore/Stroke: 3.07x3.62 inches
78 x 92 mm
Power (gross): 24.4 hp
18.2 kW
Compression: 22:1
Rated RPM: 2500
Torque: 56.3 lb-ft
76.3 Nm
Torque RPM: 2000
Starter: electric
Starter volts: 12

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Oh, and some transmission specs:


Transmission
Type: sync shuttle
Gears: 12 forward and reverse
Clutch: dry disc
Four gears in three ranges with left-hand shuttle lever. Tractor must be stopped, and clutch used, to shift gears or range.
Speeds
With 11.2-24 R1 rear tires. Reverse speeds are 5% slower than forward.
XG3025 sync shuttle speeds
Transmission
Type: hydrostatic
Gears: infinite (3-range) forward and reverse
Speeds
With 11.2-24 R1 rear tires.
XG3025 hydrostatic speeds

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/010/4/2/10421-ls-xg3025-speeds1.jpg

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

You can spec out tractors all day long.....
you need to go visit multiple dealers of multiple brands... find the one that "fits" you, the one that you feel comfortable on. The one that is in your price range...

Kubota was $7000 more than LS in my area... they may be very competitive in your area... other brands may even be more affordable.

The bottom line is look around, take your time, find what is "right" for you.

 

[sparkyjohn]

I am having trouble replying, it says i can't post links till i have 3 posts. Not trying to post links. Just trying to reply to all these good comments.

 

[sparkyjohn]

A lot of good information here. Thanks all. Some questions raised. No road use, just out back. Emissions, yes i am avoiding them as i just don't think i need to go any bigger.

 

[sparkyjohn]

A lot of good information here. Thanks all. Some questions raised. No road use, just out back. Emissions, yes i am avoiding them as i just don't think i need to go any bigger.
I have visited 2 Kubota's one Yanmar, one LS and one Deere and none have asked me any details about my use. My list includes Yanmar 324@$15,400 and 424@$16,300, Branson 2510, 2610@$16,600 and maybe 2515@$17,999. LS MT225S@$16,300 and XJ2025, Kubota B2601@$17,900, LX2610H@$19,800, LX2610SU@$17,700, and L2501. Deere 2025R@$18,800 Bobcat 2025H@$16,700 and Kioti CK2510H and CX2510H and Mahindra Max25H and Max26H in no particular order. Some i have not priced yet and some i can not go see as there are none available to see. Some numbers may be missing the H but all are hydro drive.