New House Build in WV

   / New House Build in WV #181  
Good point.

Not sure any grass will actually grow being planted this late in the year, but I知 hoping if I get it down, it will come up in the spring.

I am 600 miles North of you (on the coastline though)
Planted seed Nov. 5th, and it came up just fine.
Also planted some perennial rye seed in another location on Nov. 15th....now 15 days later....nothing!
Cold and wet.....I suspect that it rotted.
 
Last edited:
   / New House Build in WV #182  
Grass planting never happened. Left early Saturday to pick up straw, came home and was about to start tilling when my ditch guy called and said he was on his way, a day early.

We got the ditches dig, water lime in and electric conduit in. They use a ventrac and boy what a machine that is. Effortlessly cut the ditches in at 36? would have taken me all day with the wall behind rental.

They moved quick, a little too quick, as the dot h was buried before I realized the conduit for the phone line never got put in. Took me most of the day Sunday to hand dig the same ditch down to 18 and put the conduit in, all 180 of it. Digging wasn稚 too bad since the dirt was loose, just time consuming. Bummer but it痴 done now, and I知 thankful for that.

We had a light rain as we finished the ditch work on Saturday, and rained pretty hard Sunday just as I finished the phone conduit, so too muddy to work on the yard now. Not sure if it値l dry up enough to use the tiller again or not, forecast doesn稚 look good....

Nice day today, and after running for water fittings and rebar, I managed to finish framing the garage door wall, now just need to sheet it and all the major framing will be done.

Not sure if I mentioned yet or not, but I purchased a set of forks for my tractor just before starting the build. One of the best purchases I致e made and I知 not sure how I would have done most of this without them. Here痴 a shot of the tractor helping lift the 16 garage door header in place.




View attachment 677574

You will quickly discover that forks are actually more useful than the bucket.
 
   / New House Build in WV #183  
Nice job on the deck. Does it go around the porch posts, or does post sit on top?

I need to redo my decking.
 
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#184  
I'm dying to see what your window above the front door is going to look like!!!!

Eddie, the ordered window is different than the opening, it’s a 3x4 with round top. It was going to be 3x4 with 2x2’s mated to each side, but that one window was going to be over $1,500, and I just couldn’t do it. Should still look nice, just not as “fancy”.
 
Last edited:
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#185  
That decking looks great. I've had mixed experience with the first generation products but the newer products seem pretty good. The test is how it looks 4-5 years from now! I haven't kept up with the cost -- has that stuff blown up with lumber pricing during Covid?

When I bought it, wood was at its peak. 16’ wood deck board was 28.95, and the composite was 28. Pretty much a wash after adding stain for the wood and hidden fasteners for the composite. Just figured the composite will be less maintenance long term. Not sure I’m 100% confident in the fasteners though, the screws strip easy, either the head or in the wood. I absolutely hated installing it. My knees have never hurt so bad in my life. I hope those clips surprise me on their durability.

I told my wife, knowing what I know now, I would have spent a little extra and done suspended concrete and stamped it. That said, we are really happy with how the composite turned out, especially compared to wood.
 
Last edited:
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#186  
I've had some composite decking for about 15 years, much of which gets full exposure. It still looks great. I believe you will be happy in the long run. In fact, I've recently had to rebuild the wood underneath my composite decking. It was treated, but I did not stain it. This time I stained it.

Good to hear, I hope I’m saying the same in 15 years. I really wanted to paint or stain the joists, but just didn’t have the time. Hopefully I don’t regret that. Our current wood deck has a roof and is 15 years old. Joists still seem solid, so hopefully the roof helps protect it. Time will tell. I’m just glad it’s done!
 
Last edited:
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#187  
Nice job on the deck. Does it go around the porch posts, or does post sit on top?

I need to redo my decking.

I cut it around the posts, figured post sitting on top of the bottom posts and attached to the rim board using ledger locks was stronger than sitting on top of the decking. Plus easier to change out a deck board if ever needed.

That said, primary reason was that I needed to get the roof up quicker than I could get the decking down, so I didn’t really have a choice. A pain to cut around them, but not bad. Cuts aren’t perfect but I’ll be adding post wraps and top and bottom trim, so won’t see the cuts anyway.
 
Last edited:
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#188  
Moved slow today, it’s been an exhausting week. I did get the meter box/ disconnect mounted, and the ground rods drove and hooked up. My 3” core bit is apparently wore out, took a couple hours to get the hole drilled in the concrete. After starting with the big bit, had to use a smaller bit in the sds and the chisel to chip away at the hole. Then used to big core bit to clean the hole up. Turned out good, but was a lot of work. Just need to hook the service wire up in the disconnect and pull the rope into the underground conduit. Inspection is set for Thursday at 5:30. Will be nice to have that done and get my electric hook up scheduled.

Also got most of the front yard seeded and straw down. It’s too wet to get the perfect finish I wanted, but it’ll do for now as I know it’s not going to dry up enough to get it any better until spring.

Other than that, I just fiddle with some minor things. Finished in the dark again so no pics of the electric work.

Hope to get more rock for the driveway this week, and get the rebar in the garage this week. I’ll be glad to get out of the mud, that’s for sure.
 
   / New House Build in WV #189  
I am about four hours away from you. My FIL lived in Hurricane when he retired and I believe I worked on the jail there
 
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#190  
I am about four hours away from you. My FIL lived in Hurricane when he retired and I believe I worked on the jail there

Small world, I think your the second to post here with ties to hurricane.

They built 2 new jails around here a number of years ago. Don’t remember when but I was young, either middle or high school if I remember correctly. My wife had several family members that worked on them.
 
   / New House Build in WV #191  
I worked for a jail manufacturer wifes father retired from APCO
 
   / New House Build in WV #192  
I had friends in hurricane, but they no longer there.
 
   / New House Build in WV #193  
Hope the snow has not set you back too far
 
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#194  
Hope the snow has not set you back too far

We got 2” or so. Plenty to do on the inside, so shouldn’t halt progress. The cold will be worse than the snow. I guess I’ll have to cover the window openings in plastic until the windows get here, so I can keep the wind out. Going to order a natural gas torpedo heater today.
 
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#195  
Good news today, windows will be delivered tomorrow!
 
   / New House Build in WV #196  
Good news today, windows will be delivered tomorrow!

Should help with keeping out the cold snaps.

My hat is off to you folks who work so many long nights and weekends for your dream homes. Wish I'd had the money 30 years ago to do it.
 
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#197  
Should help with keeping out the cold snaps.

My hat is off to you folks who work so many long nights and weekends for your dream homes. Wish I'd had the money 30 years ago to do it.

Yeah, windows will allow a torpedo heater to make it manageable to work through the winter, I hope.

We have been planning and preparing for this for years, we came close to doing it several times, but life kept coming up with ways to get in the way of it. This is the last house I’ll ever build, no doubt about that. It is taking a huge physical and mental toll on us, but in the end, it will be worth it, and we will be proud of it. If I had done it 10 years ago, I’d be a lot further along, but slowly we will get there.

Camper never moved this year, but we plan to make up for that next year.
 
   / New House Build in WV #198  
We have been planning and preparing for this for years, we came close to doing it several times, but life kept coming up with ways to get in the way of it. This is the last house I値l ever build, no doubt about that. It is taking a huge physical and mental toll on us, but in the end, it will be worth it, and we will be proud of it. If I had done it 10 years ago, I壇 be a lot further along, but slowly we will get there.


I understand that feeling -- when we built our house in 2012-2013, I started thinking to myself that I plan to die here, whether by old age or because all the work killed me!
 
   / New House Build in WV
  • Thread Starter
#199  
I understand that feeling -- when we built our house in 2012-2013, I started thinking to myself that I plan to die here, whether by old age or because all the work killed me!

Exactly and some days you really question which one it will be!
 
   / New House Build in WV #200  
Not sure if I mentioned yet or not, but I purchased a set of forks for my tractor just before starting the build. One of the best purchases I致e made and I知 not sure how I would have done most of this without them. Here痴 a shot of the tractor helping lift the 16 garage door header in place.

View attachment 677574

How do you like the Zetor? Some would say it's an odd choice, but I came close to buying a Zetor myself about 20 years ago.

Your house looks well planned out. Simple and strong with lots of room is a good way to design for the build-it-yourselfer. Chosing to build very traditionally with a concrete basement with framing and sheathing on top makes sense for a homebuilder too. We built ours that way about 15 years ago and like you we had the fun of designing our own house from sketches... and then building it ourselves with subcontractors hired as needed. Anyone can build a simple frame house, and end up with their very own custom home. And then sit our on the porch, grow older, and be able to say, "Yep, we built it ourselves....mostly in the evenings after work. It was actually a lot of fun."

The fun part comes with making the right initial decisions on design, and that involves some luck for us amateurs. But I think you did a lot of things right. You just cannot have too much insulation, drainage, sturdy fastenings, waterproofing, or venting. All of which seem done right on yours. Hydronics too.

At your stage in our construction - before the insulation and drywall go up - my wife walked around inside with a video camera and made a complete video record of each framed room and wall in the house. About a dozen videos in all and labeled room by room. That gave us a permanent record of where all the electrical and plumbing was located in the walls, which has been a real handy thing to have through the years.

Now when I go to hang a picture, or put up shelving, or cut into a wall for anything I can first open the computer and look at the video to see what's inside the wall. Nice.

I wish I had done the same thing for all the utilities outside under the lawn.....some I did, but some I didn't even photograph.

Another thing we did right was to leave a lot of exposed knotty pine and hardwood trim inside which we varnished instead of painting. The contrast between off-white eggshell drywall and varnished wood came out right for us... although not everyone's preference I'm sure.

But varnishing the wood is an example of a small thing but important and hard to foresee. Selecting a varnish itself turned out to be a pain. My wife and I knew wooden sailboats, so we knew what we wanted was a traditional varnish that would last a long time, wear well, stand up to the sun without cracking, and be able to be recoated without having to remove the old varnish. Those are normal qualities in traditional natural varnishes, but those natural varnishes are getting hard to find and when we did find a good one they tended to be expensive. Le Tonkinois is a good example of an excellent natural varnish. Top notch product...but expensive.
I think that part of the problem with the expense of old style natural varnish is that the modern pseudo-varnishes like varathanes and urathanes have taken over the market in spite of their downsides. These synthetic varnishes eventually crack, discolor, and can't be easily re-coated without removing the old varnish. Smell weird, too. And they are expensive as well - although since they are a petroleum product that is probably because of profit more than raw materials.

The best cost solution for us was to step back and figure out how to mix our own varnish using a traditional formula. It took some experimenting, but it worked OK from the first and now we can say it has stood up for 15 years now. In places like exterior doors where our homemade varnish has weathered on the exterior, recoating it has been easy - just wash it, lightly sand (or more likely not even bother), and apply the new coat. It sticks and builds a deep lusterous coat. Just like a varnish should.

There's a lot of hints and kinks to home owners building their own place that we could probably write a book on the subject. Maybe someone should.

Anyway, I'll let you get back to work, and with our "Thank You" for allowing us to follow along with your build.

And please tell us a bit about how it is to have not one, but two unusual & older tractors? Has their age been a problem? Or is it an advantage?

rScotty
 

Marketplace Items

2013 Nissan Juke SUV (A59231)
2013 Nissan Juke...
NEW HOLLAND HAY CUTTER (A58214)
NEW HOLLAND HAY...
2014 Bobcat T550 Compact Track Loader Skid Steer (A59228)
2014 Bobcat T550...
2021 Billy Goat F902H Walk-Behind Debris Blower (A59228)
2021 Billy Goat...
2016 UTILITY VS2RA 48FT REEFER TRAILER (A59575)
2016 UTILITY VS2RA...
(2) UNUSED 31" X 8 MM EXCAVATOR TRACKS W/ PINS (A60432)
(2) UNUSED 31" X 8...
 
Top