New low sulfur fuels

   / New low sulfur fuels #21  
gemini5362 said:
stock 1/2ton, 3/4 ton , gas, diesel, dodge, ford, chevy ?

Gemini, You didn't get it. Egon's post was a personal jibe at me. He has a standard '96 and I have an automatic '97 (both Cummins diesel powered Dodges) His works, mine breaks. His is pretty stock and mine is extensively "improved."

Egon likes to tweak my beard every once in a while and every so often I get a lick in on him. Things like, "I think the long winter nights up there in the frozen north mess up his hormonal balance." Don't let this confuse you, Egon and I are good "long distance" friends with personal email traffic. Egon consistently understates his knowledge, experience, extensive education, and his gentleman farmer/man of leisure status.

Pat
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #22  
There's a nickel in the mail for you Pat!:D :D :D

Smiles work here too.:D

Pat forgot to mention that I can't afford any after market goodies and that is why I don't have them!:D
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #24  
Of course if I had a cummins diesel dodge that works I would be bragging about it too:)

although the people that i know that have them have had good luck with them.
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #25  
gemini5362 said:
Of course if I had a cummins diesel dodge that works I would be bragging about it too:)

although the people that i know that have them have had good luck with them.

Hi Gemini, My name is Pat nice to meet you. Now you know someone who has had bad luck with a Cummins powered Dodge. The Cummins works very well indeed, always has, both before and after I changed the injector pump and injectors and put the 4 inch exhaust on it and changed the intake manifold with exhaust gas recirculating ports for one without (breathes better.) Mine is a '97, the last of the original 12 valve engines before they went computer and 24 valves. My problems are with the Dodge part of the equation and one of the many aftermarket equipment suppliers, not the wonderful B-5.9 Cummins.

Actually, often but not always, I tend to go for more complex solutions and Egon is more of a minimalist for whom less is more (more better, that is.) He makes specious claims of poverty being the motivation for simplicity while those of us who know him better, in fact, know better. He is the Henry David Thoreau of things mechanical. If I needed to work out a simple and cost effective alternative to a "standard" engineering solution, Egon would be one of the early picks for staffing my team.

Now about my '97 Dodge... It is the first non-Ford truck I ever owned. I liked it immensely but it breaks. The Cummins twisted off the input shaft to the tranny. The passenger roll up window leaks air noisily above about 60-65 MPH, especially if you have the fan pushing air into the cab. The sliding back glass whistles with air leaks at any fan setting above the slowest. The radio volume control got less and less effective and basically quit. The original battery had a temp sensor so they could regulate charge by temp and volts not just volts for a faster better charge. It leaked acic which ate the vacuum line to the cruise control. I think acid went into the cruise thingy. Anyway they replaced the battery and painted the inner fender where there was acid damage but didn't neutralize the acid that got between the inner and outer fender layers and had to take it apart again and repaint. The turbo died the first year with les than 10k miles. the Truck always pulled to the left every once in a while, sometimes hardly noticeably and sometimes you made an unexpected lane change. The dealer had no clue and wouldn't try to fix it for fear of failure and my envoking the lemon law. I wouldn't be at all interested in losing that truck as I had serously and expensively customized it but that was tthere story. I shopped for a dealer not so timid and they replaced a left front.brake caliper. I coiuld go on and on andn on but youi get the idea.

The truck has lots of faults. The dealers have more. I really do like the truck but am getting gun shy about it breaking. Last week I bought a F-250 crew cab diesel so I can choose when and for what particular tasks to use the Dodge. Among other mods it has a nice Stahl Grand Challenger service body, extra 220AH batts and is set up to carry our large Lance brand camper.

The new 3/4 ton Ford will do almost as much work carying or pulling as the 1 ton Dodge. 11K vs 10K load. The Ford is seriously quieter and gets better mileage although I don't know how it will do towing. The Dodge is happy on regular diesel or ultra low sulfur. The Ford must have ultra low sulfur (less than 15PPM) or you can void the warranty.

Pat
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #26  
The radio volume control got less and less effective

I never use the radio Pat. Darned motor is too loud. Once, on a long trip, I used a headset that worked nicely.:D
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #27  
My brother in law bought a 1 ton dodge diesel for use in his air conditioning
buisness. At about 150,000 miles he had to replace the rear end but I dont
count that against the truck. He was riding down the road and a semi went over the yellow line and caught the rear dually and ripped the rear end out from under the truck. Along with the fenders and part of the bed I believe. The only real complaint I have is they used to be very loud. My duramax is so much quieter. When I first bought it I started it up as my friends at work were admiring it my boss came out and was looking at it after I shut it off and we were going back inside I said something about the price of diesel and my boss looked at me and said " that is not a diesel is it."
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #28  
Egon & Gemini, MY '97 is fairly well sound conditioned such that if you roll the windows up you can enjoy the radio, CD, or a conversation. It got just a tad noiser when I went to the 4 inch exhaust and a really large "commercial" truck muffler. The turbo spools up quickly now though. The exhaust note changed more than the noise level increased. Still you can enjoy the radio in the dodge. It has the premium sound system and does OK considering. It isn't nearly as quiet as the new Ford and the sound system of the Ford souinds really good to me. They offer a better sound system in this model that has a sub woofer but even without it the music is darned good. I wouldn't have ordered a Sirius satellite radio but it came with one and it sure is nice.

I also didn't pay the BIG BUCKS for the GPS. I expect to buy my own portable GPS to use in the truck, or elsewhere. There is a rectangular flat bottomed laptop computer sized depression in the middle of the dash. A little velcro and you are good to go. A fair size display will sit there and not obscure my view of anything but the hood. Another location for a display is above the interior rear view mirror. That seems like a good place for a little LCD screen for a rear view camera.

This '08 Ford is a new model crew cab and has more space than the '07 and previous. It remains to be seen what sort of service we will get with the PowerStroke (PowerJoke?) If it is anywhere near as trouble free as the Cummins I'll be a happy camper. My cummins has NEVER had a problem.

Oh, did I mention... It sure is quiet!

Pat
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #29  
Pat; did you start the engine yet?? :D :D :D Mines quiet too with the engine off!:D :D :D
 
   / New low sulfur fuels #30  
Egon said:
Pat; did you start the engine yet?? :D :D :D Mines quiet too with the engine off!:D :D :D

Egon, It starts fast and easy and the dash icon for the preheat doesn't stay on very long or at all if the thing hs been driven anytime in the recent past. Less preheat time than the Cummins. All these diesels come with block heater but they don't include the connecting cable if you don't order the cold weather option. The book says you don't need the block heater unless the truck has spent time parked at -10F. Sounds good to me. Winters here are variable but I haven't seen temps below Zero Fahrenheit in the last 7 years. Got downto zero but no lower here. As I garage it, the heater will probably not be needed.

Yes Egon, I did start it (I think) since the odometer goes up when we drive it and the tachometer registers. Of course, quiet is relative. This truck is quiet compared to the older Dodge or probably older anything diesel but relative to our Prius it is extremely noisy.

I recall the first diesel I ever started. What a pain, especially in cold NW Ohio weather. Darned thing would kick back and hurt your finger. Oh, it was hand started. It was a rather small diesel with no glowplug and no muffler. It was hard to start and noisy when running (rare event.) It swung about a 6-8 inch prop depending on pitch employed. It was a real PITA, never flown, and soon abandoned for the easier to start glowplug engines which preceded it.

Pat
 

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