Rotary Cutter New to rotary cutters, have questions, help please

   / New to rotary cutters, have questions, help please #71  
I'm merely using the small 18" drawbar as an example.. it's cat 0 sized.. but cat 1 spec'ed.

Just because your opinion does not match my opinion does not make my opinion wrong...it means we disagree.

As for 2 machines having different ranges of motion.. I see that as one have a more utilitariand design.. I don't see a tangible downside to that either.

Why you simply can't debate like an adult and leave the personal remarks out is beyond me. There is no where in this conversation for telling someone they have 'no sense'.. because they watn .. or MAY want.. or 'simply 'COULD' hook up a small implement to one machine.. compaired to another.

if I were buying a new cat 2 tractor today.. and i had brand A and brand B in front of me.. both otherwise identical down to price, dealer, financing, options i wanted.. fuel usage.. etc.. both otherwise 100% equal.. and then the salesman said.. well brand A can hook to any cat 0, 1, or 2 implemnt that you would like to drag behind it.. Brand B can hook to any Cat1 or 2 implement.. yada.. yada.. Seems to me there is a , albiet small, choice that can be made... that could sway the deal... Brand B has 'X' degree range of motion on the lift arms... and brand A has "X+1" degree range of motion.. etc.. It all comes down to numbers at that point.

I'm not trying to prove that your opinion is wrong.. I'm just trying to show that there can be many non-exclusive opinions on the subject.

On second though.. this has gone on way to far.. I must be a glutton for punishment to debate you.... It's widely known here that you only respect your own opinion anyway...

As of this post.. I'm throwing in the towel on this discussionwith respect to any of your direct replies or comments . If you take that as a win.. go for it.. It's not worth my time trying to defend an opinion to someone that is totally unwilling to give any credit to anyone else's words.. other than their own.

soundguy

Farmwithjunk said:
You may well see Grossly undersized as an arbitrary term, but using a drawbar intended for a 20 hp or smaller tractor on a 50 hp or larger tractor is, well, grossly undersized.

"Sour grapes" as per fable? That's laughable... And why would I even want to hook a toy-like CAT 0 implement to a 60 hp tractor. SOME of us have more sense than that.

I'm sure John Deere's design engineers are quaking in their boots now that you've declared their hitch system undesirable. Why, I bet they recall and scrap the millions of tractors they,ve built just because you don't "applaud" them.

Probably the most successful and popular modern "big tractor" ever produced is the John Deere 4020. The 3-point hitch on all 4020's has the same sway block stabilization I described. So, maybe a few hundred thousand farmers don't know squat and should look to you for enlightenment?
 
   / New to rotary cutters, have questions, help please #72  
Soundguy said:
I'm merely using the small 18" drawbar as an example.. it's cat 0 sized.. but cat 1 spec'ed.

Just because your opinion does not match my opinion does not make my opinion wrong...it means we disagree.

As for 2 machines having different ranges of motion.. I see that as one have a more utilitariand design.. I don't see a tangible downside to that either.

Why you simply can't debate like an adult and leave the personal remarks out is beyond me. There is no where in this conversation for telling someone they have 'no sense'.. because they watn .. or MAY want.. or 'simply 'COULD' hook up a small implement to one machine.. compaired to another.

if I were buying a new cat 2 tractor today.. and i had brand A and brand B in front of me.. both otherwise identical down to price, dealer, financing, options i wanted.. fuel usage.. etc.. both otherwise 100% equal.. and then the salesman said.. well brand A can hook to any cat 0, 1, or 2 implemnt that you would like to drag behind it.. Brand B can hook to any Cat1 or 2 implement.. yada.. yada.. Seems to me there is a , albiet small, choice that can be made... that could sway the deal... Brand B has 'X' degree range of motion on the lift arms... and brand A has "X+1" degree range of motion.. etc.. It all comes down to numbers at that point.

I'm not trying to prove that your opinion is wrong.. I'm just trying to show that there can be many non-exclusive opinions on the subject.

On second though.. this has gone on way to far.. I must be a glutton for punishment to debate you.... It's widely known here that you only respect your own opinion anyway...

As of this post.. I'm throwing in the towel on this discussionwith respect to any of your direct replies or comments . If you take that as a win.. go for it.. It's not worth my time trying to defend an opinion to someone that is totally unwilling to give any credit to anyone else's words.. other than their own.

soundguy

Uhhh?.?.?.? Personal remarks? Did Chris get his feelings hurt when a general statement struck a raw nerve?

Your "opinion" seems clear. Anything you don't understand is therefore wrong. We've been down that long dead end road countless times.

Read back a few post's. You'll no doubt see where I said BOTH concepts are workable and correct in their own way. It's YOUR opinion that anything OTHER THAN what you understand can't concievably be correct.

Lock your thoughts and ideas into a small box and the grow very stale very quick.
 
   / New to rotary cutters, have questions, help please #73  
I'd really hate to have to close this thread until we learn what the original poster does with that machine, but it's definitely time for this quarrel to end. Please!
 
   / New to rotary cutters, have questions, help please #74  
It looks like you could could take a piece of steel round stalk the right size and U-Bolt it to the bottom of the angle iron. You might need spacers. If it works then invest in welding it on.

Eric
 
   / New to rotary cutters, have questions, help please
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#75  
Ok, to close this thread and address some points.

No, I can't really modify the cutter b/c there is a small chance a friend of mine will take it off my hands. He's got an old Ferguson that is much smaller and will actually fit the cutter properly.

Last night my friend, same one w/ the Fergy, and I dug out his dad's old walk behind brush mower. This thing is ancient and must weight a couple hundred pounds. Again, scary looking rig. Looks like it would eat your car if it got away from you.

The thing is far from fun to use, but we were able to use it w/ some success. And, in doing so we realized, after all this nonsense, that a 3pt cutter on my L3400 would actually not have worked very well after all! The side slopes along my driveway/road (my main reason for wanting a bad *** cutter) are too steep and narrow to fit the L3400. And since I don't have thousands to drop on a boom mounted cutter I guess I'll explore the option of a hand held brush cutter. The brush saga continues....
j
 
 

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