New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :)

   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :) #41  
Yeah, he's up in Toronto. But, we can still shop for him!:laughing:

Kubota is also nice: less power and turf tires through (turfs good for grass; would need to chain up for snow?)
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :) #43  
Based on gladehound's findings I might look to see if they would do a pre-purchase inspection. Two good things here: 1) It's insurance; 2) You could find out how good the dealer is.
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :) #44  
Yeah, he's up in Toronto. But, we can still shop for him!:laughing:

Kubota is also nice: less power and turf tires through (turfs good for grass; would need to chain up for snow?)

I love spending other people's money! Sure beats spending my own! (refer to my comments about me being cheap) :D

It might not be intuitive since they look less aggressive, but turf tires do very well in snow. Better than stock R-4 tires. R-4 tires should be grooved for best traction in snow (now I'm shamelessly promoting my tire grooving thread!) :thumbsup:
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :) #45  
Probably 100" of snow annually (Barrie area)
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :) #46  
Interesting thread. Living in Buffalo's snow belt I've plowed a lot of snow. My opinion to fit your needs is a 4wd front end loader with R4 tires, but nothing too heavy since you're also mowing your lawn....

Just my opinion but having used both R4 and Turf on my B I would recommend turf. They work better in snow and are easier on the lawn.
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :)
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#47  
So I have 100% more experience today than I did yesterday. We stopped by the Mahindra dealer by our new place today followed by the Kubota dealer a little further off.

The Mahindra dealer was a mom & pop shop and really great people. They recommended the Max 26 HST. It was nice, my lady and I took turns doing circles on the lawn :)

Likes: sweet loader, quick attach - size felt comfortable. It seemed to me that the fit and finish was solid, more industrial feeling than the Kubotas we looked at later. No emissions stuff. No nonsense sales attitude, close to us, friendly and helpful.

They quoted 23k after tax (we have a pretty hefty sales tax up here) with the QA loader. Rear mount blower was another 2500 and a finish mower another 2500 (tax in).

We spent so much time chatting with the nice Mahindra folks that we only had ten minutes at the Kubota dealership. Even so, we were quoted about 17k and change for the 2601 and I think about 18k and change for the 2650. No attachments. The sales person there is following up with me on pricing via email so I’ll know more tomorrow.

Likes: 3 speed trans, even though I'm not sure whether this is important to me yet. It looked bigger than the Mahindra. It does weigh more according to the brochure, but the weight is different on the site. Weird. The cab model really does look nice.

We were up at the property today before visiting the dealers, meeting with the owner, and I couldn't help but think about the advice here while standing outside in the bitter wind. I'm concerned a cab won't fit in the garage and the added cost seems like a lot considering how often it will actually be needed. In the summer I imagine preferring an open tractor. We're moving up there to get outside :) I won't be mowing in the rain. But a cab is tempting, they look super comfortable and kind of fun, quite frankly. Seems if one wants a rear mount blower however then you need additional hydraulics to work the chute. Cost on top of cost. I get that it would make the winter experience so much better but the cost is too high to justify. It’s going to be snowsuit and ski goggles, I think. A tractor is already a pretty significant outlay and I do not need one for my livelihood. I’m not kidding anyone, I work on a computer at a desk all day.

The 2650 is a little bigger than the Max 26. At close to 2300 lbs for the tractor only though, will it be too heavy to mow with? Again, the numbers for weight differ between the pamphlet (1786 lbs) vs the site (2293 lbs) so I’m not sure which is the correct figure. I’m sold on turf tires whatever we end up deciding. The Mahindra dealer was selling me on the rear mower, they seem less expensive but that's also when I learned that the mid PTO was optional on the Mahindra. So an MMM on the Mahindra is another of those cost on top of cost things. Short of getting a front mount snowblower or MMM, do I need the mid PTO?

I'm leaning towards the Kubota 2650, the cost wasn’t as bad as the site made it look. I'm still interested in the smaller Kubotas as well, the 2301 and 2601. They seem like capable tractors but have less weight at 1566 and 1632 lbs respectively. So the 2601 and 2650 have the same size engine but differ in weight by about 550 pounds, which seems a significant benefit for moving snow. However I’m going off the larger number, which may be incorrect.

Our place is in Mono, near Orangeville. Yearly average for Orangeville appears to be about 64”. Asked the owner about snow and he indicated that the predominant winds typically blow the drive mostly clear. However, when the wind comes out of the east, watch out. After hearing that I wonder if a big tractor is really required. Again, I will likely be working from home when the snow is really bad.

If some reasonable person out there is reading this thinking “he doesn’t need to spend 20k to clear his driveway and cut his grass” please speak now :)
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :) #48  
With the length of driveway you have and the amount of lawn you are in the 20K range I think. As far as snowblower chute rotation goes a lot of the snowblowers come with a hand crank and that is fine for most peoples use if they have an open station tractor. My soft cab came with provision for the crank to come through the cab. However, I added an electric winch for a rotator to keep from needing an added hydraulic circuit (which is kind of expensive).

If you have 7 foot garage doors, a cab is going to be a problem. Generally you will need at least 8 foot doors. With the amount of land you have, is another building in the plans?
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :)
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#49  
With the amount of land you have, is another building in the plans?

Not anytime soon, no. First outbuilding will be a chicken coop :)
 
   / New to tractors, did a lot of reading, still need advice :) #50  
If you're looking at Mahindra, then you might as well look at Kioti and LS too. I believe the Mahindra you looked at is actually a TYM?? from Korea...The Kioti and LS tractors are also Korean. I don't think there's much difference, if any at all, in quality between makes these days. Features and gizmos, yes. Overall quality, no. I think you might get a lot more tractor for your money if you have the time to look at some other brands.

DO NOT buy a cab without AC! That is like sitting in a covered Aquarium in the summer. HOT!

It sounds like you are outside the snowbelt a little.

No, you do not need to spend 20 large to mow the lawn and plow the driveway. If you had a pickup truck, all you would need is a blade to take care of most snowfalls. All you need to mow the lawn is some kind of a riding mower. A walk-behind rototiller can work a big garden.

However, a tractor with some attachments is just so handy for so many things; all of the above and more. You can definately get by with a different approach. Definately.

Life would be easier..I think...if we each had all the money in the world, or if everything were free.

I miss our chickens. Cluck, cluck. We'll have some again someday.
 

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