Reddirttractor
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- 2000 New Holland TN65
Yesterday I was bush hogging a hilly pasture and had a brake system failure… luckily I had just reached the bottom of a hill when the anomaly happened! I’m trying to wrap my head around what happened, how to prevent it, and any advice or insight the forum may have to offer. some things about the situation make sense, others have me scratching my head.
As mentioned I was bush hogging in a hilly, narrow pasture yesterday afternoon. Machine had been running for about 4 hours and it was about 90 degrees outside. I had the brakes unlocked and was brake steering to make tight tuns in flat areas of the field.
One section of the field is fairly steep maybe 20%+ degree grade, not sure, but steep enough that you’d never want to side hill it.
On my final pass, I was coming down hill, and had geared down to A3. As I reached the bottom of the hill I depressed the clutch and both brakes to come to a complete stop.
Breaks felt soft, so out of instinct I pumped them a time or two, and then both sides, especially the left went to the boards. Absolutely nothing. I shut off the machine, put my parking brake on…which didn’t do anything obviously other than turn off the PB alarm. I thought I had blown a line or seal or something. During visual inspection the only thing I could find was that the brake fluid reservoir was about one finger below the max fill line. And that the float sensor had come loose from the cap. I’ll also add that I never had any lights on the consuls turn on or flicker during operation.
I hiked back to the shop to grab some NH brake fluid (NOT DOT) and give the machine time to cool… I was thinking about going through the bleed out process but decided to wait till the following day.
Next morning I head out, and both brakes were soft but functional again. I topped off the reservoir, reattached the float and pumped the brakes. Left side is solid, right side is softer but functional. Locked together they seem solid.
My theory is that my reservoir was low. And that when I came down the hill the left master cylinder sucked air. And then the equalizer line allowed air to get to the right cylinder. As the tractor sat over night the system self -bled the majority of the air out of the system. I never got a light because the sensor was detached(or I have a light out).
How can I avoid this? I suppose I should do a thorough walk around before each use, but come on, its a tractor, not an airplane. I check things every time I fuel up generally speaking.
Is there something else that could potentially be wrong?
I’m open to any and all suggestions, never want to be in that situation again. Things appear right, but both cylinders aren’t equally stiff. I suppose I’ll bleed the system.
Is it plausible that the system burped itself overnight?
Can a couple oz of fluid really put you in such a dangerous situation, is there no redundancy built into the system, or is my life in the hands of a plastic 9 oz reservoir?
What am I missing?
Tractors been running like a Swiss watch until this incident with the brakes. Part of me wants to take it to the shop, but if the issue won’t replicate, what’s the mechanic going to do that I cannot do myself?
Thanks for any advice or help. I’m curious if anyone else has experienced this.
As mentioned I was bush hogging in a hilly, narrow pasture yesterday afternoon. Machine had been running for about 4 hours and it was about 90 degrees outside. I had the brakes unlocked and was brake steering to make tight tuns in flat areas of the field.
One section of the field is fairly steep maybe 20%+ degree grade, not sure, but steep enough that you’d never want to side hill it.
On my final pass, I was coming down hill, and had geared down to A3. As I reached the bottom of the hill I depressed the clutch and both brakes to come to a complete stop.
Breaks felt soft, so out of instinct I pumped them a time or two, and then both sides, especially the left went to the boards. Absolutely nothing. I shut off the machine, put my parking brake on…which didn’t do anything obviously other than turn off the PB alarm. I thought I had blown a line or seal or something. During visual inspection the only thing I could find was that the brake fluid reservoir was about one finger below the max fill line. And that the float sensor had come loose from the cap. I’ll also add that I never had any lights on the consuls turn on or flicker during operation.
I hiked back to the shop to grab some NH brake fluid (NOT DOT) and give the machine time to cool… I was thinking about going through the bleed out process but decided to wait till the following day.
Next morning I head out, and both brakes were soft but functional again. I topped off the reservoir, reattached the float and pumped the brakes. Left side is solid, right side is softer but functional. Locked together they seem solid.
My theory is that my reservoir was low. And that when I came down the hill the left master cylinder sucked air. And then the equalizer line allowed air to get to the right cylinder. As the tractor sat over night the system self -bled the majority of the air out of the system. I never got a light because the sensor was detached(or I have a light out).
How can I avoid this? I suppose I should do a thorough walk around before each use, but come on, its a tractor, not an airplane. I check things every time I fuel up generally speaking.
Is there something else that could potentially be wrong?
I’m open to any and all suggestions, never want to be in that situation again. Things appear right, but both cylinders aren’t equally stiff. I suppose I’ll bleed the system.
Is it plausible that the system burped itself overnight?
Can a couple oz of fluid really put you in such a dangerous situation, is there no redundancy built into the system, or is my life in the hands of a plastic 9 oz reservoir?
What am I missing?
Tractors been running like a Swiss watch until this incident with the brakes. Part of me wants to take it to the shop, but if the issue won’t replicate, what’s the mechanic going to do that I cannot do myself?
Thanks for any advice or help. I’m curious if anyone else has experienced this.