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jwcinpk
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- 2009 Mahindra 3316 HST-2008 Mahindra 7010 cab - 2004 Mahindra 6000 4X4
Well I was a little offended by the Mahindra boys comment. Ok not really, but I geuss I'm a Mahindra boy!
There is no way that anyone can perceive that it doesn't in some little way hurt Deere to lose a sale of any tractor. I'm sure they would a lot rather sell all the tractors they are selling now plus the ones Mahindra is selling. They still pretty much rule the US market. However they see real threats. Case in point Mahindra's Deere John ad. Deere came after Mahindra like crazy. Fact! I won't divulge my sources, but it's a fact. Deere perceives Mahindra as a real threat. In my area Mahindra took off strong and changed everybody. When I started shopping for a new tractor I shopped Deere, Kubota, MF, and others. They all had the attitude of "here is my price buy if you want, don't buy if you don't want". Very very little room in price. All were selling good and they had no reason to dicker. A few years down the road I am shopping for a cab tractor. Since the largest one Mahindra makes is 70hp I've looked at Deere, MF, Kubota, and others again. Wow has there attitude changed. They are now wanting to sell me a tractor and willing to deal. Mahindra sales are not other manufacturers sales and that hurts them period. Now I realize that I have no scientific data to link it to Mahindra, but they are the only tractor manufacturer that has come into my area in the last few years.
It's silly to think that Mahindra has the parts network that rivals Deere at this point, but if they continue to grow as they have and improve as they have they may well have one day. To this point I've had no trouble with parts. I've had trouble with the dealer, but not the parts.
Where Deere leads everybody is in Marketing! Think about how many people you see wearing Deere advertising. They really shine. People who know nothing about tractors will grab up a Deere shirt and advertise. It's implanted in so many peoples minds that Deere is best because so many people advertise for them. Go to a farm show or rodeo and you'll see folks with Deere stuff everywhere. People just assume they have a Deere tractor and if they have one I want one.
There is no way that anyone can perceive that it doesn't in some little way hurt Deere to lose a sale of any tractor. I'm sure they would a lot rather sell all the tractors they are selling now plus the ones Mahindra is selling. They still pretty much rule the US market. However they see real threats. Case in point Mahindra's Deere John ad. Deere came after Mahindra like crazy. Fact! I won't divulge my sources, but it's a fact. Deere perceives Mahindra as a real threat. In my area Mahindra took off strong and changed everybody. When I started shopping for a new tractor I shopped Deere, Kubota, MF, and others. They all had the attitude of "here is my price buy if you want, don't buy if you don't want". Very very little room in price. All were selling good and they had no reason to dicker. A few years down the road I am shopping for a cab tractor. Since the largest one Mahindra makes is 70hp I've looked at Deere, MF, Kubota, and others again. Wow has there attitude changed. They are now wanting to sell me a tractor and willing to deal. Mahindra sales are not other manufacturers sales and that hurts them period. Now I realize that I have no scientific data to link it to Mahindra, but they are the only tractor manufacturer that has come into my area in the last few years.
It's silly to think that Mahindra has the parts network that rivals Deere at this point, but if they continue to grow as they have and improve as they have they may well have one day. To this point I've had no trouble with parts. I've had trouble with the dealer, but not the parts.
Where Deere leads everybody is in Marketing! Think about how many people you see wearing Deere advertising. They really shine. People who know nothing about tractors will grab up a Deere shirt and advertise. It's implanted in so many peoples minds that Deere is best because so many people advertise for them. Go to a farm show or rodeo and you'll see folks with Deere stuff everywhere. People just assume they have a Deere tractor and if they have one I want one.
VA Rebel
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I'm a little more knowledgable than an average homeowner about tractors having grown up on a farm. To be fair, I would never even think about anything but a Deere. I never even heard of Mahindra until joining TBN. The closest dealer is 60 miles away according to the website. It appears to be a solid tractor. It probably will be one of the better name tractors one day. So I've got two questions for y'all. What is FWJ saying that is drivin you so crazy? And how are you so diehard about a tractor that hasnt been around these parts for that long? Dealer network, price, parts etc.. aside, I think it mostly boils down to what you grew up with.
DavesTractor
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VA, I don't think it has anything to do with tractors at this point. It's a silly pride thing about having the better argument and picking apart others statements. "you said this, you said that, I meant this, you meant that, etc".
Robert_in_NY
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Farmwithjunk
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VA Rebel said:
From my standpoint, this has all been very entertaining. Something to break the bordom while my wife is away visiting her mother. All I have to do is post....ANYTHING..... and there's 3 die-hard fanatical zealots, all 3 Mahindra owners, who just go to pieces. And what's so incredable, I'm telling them far more good things than bad about the brand they're obsessing over. All 3 have decided to take the approach of making up/imagining all sorts of "facts" to support their claims of being looked down upon, and re-enforce their "equality/superiority" because of a percieved "slight" when someone else referred to their obsession as "off brand". (NEVER from me) I couldn't possibly care any less what brand of tractor they (or anyone else for that matter) choose to own. I bought what serves me the best. The most recent purchase I've made is an '07 6430 Deere. In so far as I know Mahindra doesn't even offer a 95 hp MFWD tractor in the US. They weren't even in the running. Had they offered a simular model, and if they had a dealer in my area (that was capable of handling parts and warranty issues) I would have considered them. But they don't. And I made that clear. And these 3 went bonkers again. And I laughed at them again. Nothing psycological. Not an issue of pride, prejudice, or personal agenda.