Old vs New Equivalence?
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My wife is having a hard time seeing how it might be worth it to buy used considering what used can cost us, with no warrentee. Here are a few machines that have been up for sale near us:
GT265=$2500
L110=$1800
140=$2000
345=$9800
445=$5500 My preference
318=$3-5K
316=$2700
755=$9800 I like this as well
790=$14K
955=$15K
Now if the 445 can be compared to the X700's that might make the price look better. I still need to find a blower though. The 318 is appealing only if a I can get it with a blower for $4K, the X500's deffinitely cost more than that. There is no way I would be able to talk her into the 755 though, even though it comes with a 60"MMM and blower. She would not see any future uses for it.
I'm beginning to dislike this process.
I think it is all coming down to the fact that I would have to do all of the maintenance and pay for major repairs. That is her fear. I have to admit to a little fear as well when it comes to a major breakdown. I do not like the idea of putting out $5K and blowing the engine a year later. Or something along those lines. We both come from poor families and have endless memories of beat up cars, etc.
My wife is having a hard time seeing how it might be worth it to buy used considering what used can cost us, with no warrentee. Here are a few machines that have been up for sale near us:
GT265=$2500
L110=$1800
140=$2000
345=$9800
445=$5500 My preference
318=$3-5K
316=$2700
755=$9800 I like this as well
790=$14K
955=$15K
Now if the 445 can be compared to the X700's that might make the price look better. I still need to find a blower though. The 318 is appealing only if a I can get it with a blower for $4K, the X500's deffinitely cost more than that. There is no way I would be able to talk her into the 755 though, even though it comes with a 60"MMM and blower. She would not see any future uses for it.
I'm beginning to dislike this process.
I think it is all coming down to the fact that I would have to do all of the maintenance and pay for major repairs. That is her fear. I have to admit to a little fear as well when it comes to a major breakdown. I do not like the idea of putting out $5K and blowing the engine a year later. Or something along those lines. We both come from poor families and have endless memories of beat up cars, etc.
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My brother uses a GT 265 to blow snow here in NH, and was happy with it the last time I asked. He gets some drifting as his development is pretty open, but doesn't have much of a rise in his driveway. I would be much happier with a garden tractor in the 800 lb range (bare) for those chores. I've owned two Simplicity tractors, a 71125, and the 20hp Legacy I have now. The Legacy has just enough weight (= to JD 445) to make a very noticable difference in traction, and stability. I haven't used it for blowing snow, but with the limited slip differential, and tire chains, I am guessing it would be fine. 4wd is better, though some guys really like their 4 wheel steering JD's for snow chores.
It can be discouraging trying to choose the right thing, especially if you don't have a lot of confidence in how something used has been maintained. These things are kind of expensive to be guessing on, and I feel your pain!
Hang in there.
It can be discouraging trying to choose the right thing, especially if you don't have a lot of confidence in how something used has been maintained. These things are kind of expensive to be guessing on, and I feel your pain!
Hang in there.
ChuckinNH,
What's the weight on the Legacy? I'm curious about how much I should have for plowing. It's looking like I'm going to have to buy something with a plow to start with and then find a blower to go with it. Not to many machines are being sold with the blowers around here. People seem to be keeping the blowers and just changing machines.
I haven't been able to find a JD 455 yet. A couple of the dealers have said that it is too early in the season yet, more will come in as trades as the summer gets closer. I may need to wait a little. I am going to go see a Simplicity Sunstar in a couple of days though. It has a blower and tiller as well as the MMM. Worth a look even if the price is high at $5800.
I want to go and see the JD445 I mentioned previously if that would be a good one for plowing. How much weight would you recommend adding to a 445? Are wheel weights and chains enough, or should I be looking at suitcases? I have had one of the dealers here tell me to look at the X500 with a plow or the 2305 with FEL. I just can't afford the 2305, but does the X500 have the weight?
I should clarify the snowblowing thing. My driveway is in the middle of very open prairie. From my driveway I can look almost 5 miles in all directions without being blocked by much. I am just starting to plant wind breaks. This will cause a large amount of drifting initially. Plowing 3' drifts at 5 AM is not appealing when it's -30 outside.
Thanks for all of the help everyone.
Rayan
What's the weight on the Legacy? I'm curious about how much I should have for plowing. It's looking like I'm going to have to buy something with a plow to start with and then find a blower to go with it. Not to many machines are being sold with the blowers around here. People seem to be keeping the blowers and just changing machines.
I haven't been able to find a JD 455 yet. A couple of the dealers have said that it is too early in the season yet, more will come in as trades as the summer gets closer. I may need to wait a little. I am going to go see a Simplicity Sunstar in a couple of days though. It has a blower and tiller as well as the MMM. Worth a look even if the price is high at $5800.
I want to go and see the JD445 I mentioned previously if that would be a good one for plowing. How much weight would you recommend adding to a 445? Are wheel weights and chains enough, or should I be looking at suitcases? I have had one of the dealers here tell me to look at the X500 with a plow or the 2305 with FEL. I just can't afford the 2305, but does the X500 have the weight?
I should clarify the snowblowing thing. My driveway is in the middle of very open prairie. From my driveway I can look almost 5 miles in all directions without being blocked by much. I am just starting to plant wind breaks. This will cause a large amount of drifting initially. Plowing 3' drifts at 5 AM is not appealing when it's -30 outside.
Thanks for all of the help everyone.
Rayan
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The catalog says that the Legacy weighs from 830 (2wd smallest engine) to 1131 (4wd diesel engine) with the mower deck, but my dealer said that the Legacy weighed around 1300 with the deck. I have run the Legacy side by side with a Kubota BX22 without the loader, and backhoe on, and I do know the Kubota sank deeper in the damp spots (getting scientific here) I would think that the JD445, Simplicity Sunstar, and Legacy, and the Cub Cadets of the same size would all weigh very close to the same amount. I would try loading the rear tires with rimguard, or winter windshield washer fluid, and planning on chains. The limited slip differential combined with the differential lock give my Simplicity excellent traction for a two wheel drive. The Landlord that I had before this one was about the same weight as a JD x500, and I needed to load the rear tires to get the traction I needed, and it was still not as good as the Legacy. I have a friend that has had a couple of Sunstars ( Simplicity was big in this area for a while) and had great luck with both of them. I had 1500 hours on my Landlord, and it was still fine when I traded it in for the Legacy.
I would think that the JD445, Simplicity Sunstar, and Legacy, and the Cub Cadets of the same size would all weigh very close to the same amount. I would try loading the rear tires with rimguard, or winter windshield washer fluid, and planning on chains. The limited slip differential combined with the differential lock give my Simplicity excellent traction for a two wheel drive. The Landlord that I had before this one was about the same weight as a JD x500, and I needed to load the rear tires to get the traction I needed, and it was still not as good as the Legacy. I have a friend that has had a couple of Sunstars ( Simplicity was big in this area for a while) and had great luck with both of them. I had 1500 hours on my Landlord, and it was still fine when I traded it in for the Legacy.LBrown59
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So then this would mean the Cub Cadet 2500 and 3000 series are closer to the JD x700s than they are to the JDx500s.ChuckinNH said:
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http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk286/lb59/100_2313.jpgKlorinth said:
$6300 without mower. This one is brand new.
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$4525 without tiller and front blade.
I would be looking real hard for a used BX1500 or BX1800 series.
My local dealer had new BX1850s on sale for $6945
without attachments or mower.
I'd check the dealers out good for a similar deal on a new BX1850 too.
