Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant!

   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #41  
Did anyone mention CL posters who fail to take down an ad after they sell something? I use eBay for weird stuff that's easily shippable, but CL for items like autos, tractors and table saws and so on that you can't really ship. When my wife got her plug in Prius, we had a 10 year old Honda Civic Hybrid to unload, and the dealer's offer was, to say the least, insulting. I listed it on CL, and among the responses was an email from a guy in Wisconsin (we're in Maryland...) so I took detailed photos and scanned service records, etc. He flew in, bought the car and drove it home from the airport. A year later he emailed me, happy as could be, since the car had saved him a lot of gas money in his 100+ mile daily commute. Having bought and sold tractors via CL, all I can add would be take lots of good photos, present a clear description, and they will come.
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #42  
So far, I've been 3 out of 3 for buying stuff on CL:

- Window AC for my Skeeter Pee Production Center/MEC/reloading room/Mancave. Guy was selling it for his aged FIL, got a brand new HF concrete mixer in the deal as well.

- My favorite kitty (Jelly) for free. The fixing and shots weren't though!

- 25 gallon ATV sprayer. Pump stopped working just as I got there (notorious for this make), got $100 off it plus he had a 6' rock rake he was wanted to sell.

If I was going to start selling stuff via CL however, I'd get a dedicated burner phone to use. No way would I put my personal cell phone out there - no way.


And I absolutely agree with the OP: especially for farm type stuff! "Seeder for sale, $300". No location, no size or description, crappy cell phone pic, no discussion if it works or not; just awful ads. When I see them, I ignore them. People that can't take a minute to make a good ad probably don't have anything worth owning anyway. Nor do I want to associate, even for a very limited time, with people like that, the heck with them, life's too short.
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #43  
I had an instance a few years ago where a guy posted an old Ford 2000 for sale on craigslist for a very good price. I responded to the ad and he answered my questions but said he was out of town and wouldn't be able to show it until Sunday. Friday evening I get an email that was sent to a dozen or so other people saying "there's been a ton of interest in the tractor, we'll start showing at 10:00 on sunday."

I emailed back saying I'm very interested is there any chance I can be the first one to look at it. He told I could be there at 9:30 and I would be the first. I show up sunday morning take the tractor for a drive and say I'll take it. He says "great, I'll go in and get the paperwork" so in the meantime I start loading up the tractor. He stays inside for quite some time and finally comes out and says "I got a guy on the way that is offering $500 more than the asking price, can you match it?"

I was speechless. I finally gathered my wits and told him he won't get a dime from me. I told him to get the tractor off my trailer and then I waited in his driveway for the other person to show up and told them what happened and that they didn't need to pay the $500 extra anymore.
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #44  
Whenever the price is a great deal I generally suspect 'stolen goods', mind you neighborhoods can help decide that issue.
(like which side of the tracks)

With something major that has a S.N. I would want some sort of document to protect myself also a search for liens.
I know a chap that got a great deal on a tractor. We later found out that the seller declared it stolen and collected insurance.
Maybe it also had a loan outstanding.
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #45  
Any type of selling, Craigslist or other, is always a bit stressful. Sometimes the price is so "reasonable" that no further haggling is necessary. Several years ago (before the days of Craigslist) I sold a one year old snowmobile that was in perfect condition with just over 400 miles. I listed it in the local newspaper with an accurate description of the sled and a price that was about $400 under book value.

A potential buyer called within about 2 hours of the posting in the newspaper stating he was very interested but would not be able to come out until the next day. He asked if I would hold it for him as he was working late. I told him I would but that I was firm on the price and that if he decided to purchase the sled I would need cash. He thanked me for agreeing to hold the sled and that cash payment would be fine.

He arrived the next day with a pickup and trailer and generally seemed like a pleasant man. His wife was with him and both test drove the sled extensively around my property. At the end of the test drive he said he would take the sled but for about $500 less than my price. I reminded him of the day's previous conversation about the price and that the sled had only been listed for a day and I was unwilling to move on the price given the condition.

The man became belligerent and insulting because I wouldn't accept his offer. He said he had never dealt with some one unwilling to "haggle" over the price. I told him that perhaps I should have started at the book price and then "haggled" to get to my asking price but that it seemed foolish to do that and why not just get to the selling price quickly. He huddled with the wife and came back with some cash but still wasn't prepared to meet my price.

I finally had to tell him that the process was becoming too painful for both him and me and that he might want to look for another sled. He said that his wife loved the sled and wanted it. I again stated my price. He reached back into his pocket and found the remaining money. But, his hostility intensified. He started the sled and started to drive it up his tilt snowmobile trailer only to overshoot front of the trailer and drive the skis into the end gate of his pickup. He began to call me every name he could think of, none too complimentary, as he pulled the sled back and tied it down on the trailer. His wife was shaking her head the entire time.

So, I learned a valuable lesson that day. As ridiculous as it may seem, one must always build in some wiggle room when selling. I would prefer to get to a price quickly and either it is a price I am willing to pay or it is not. But I now realize that I am alone with this concept.

I remember in the old days of buying a car or truck when you would spend the entire day at the dealership (in his little cubicle) as the salesman went back and forth with the sales manager "haggling" over the price. It was a torturous ****. The entire goal of the sales people was to make it as uncomfortable as possible so that we agree to their price just to get out of the place. I actually like to the process today much better where the dealerships list their selling price up front. There can still be a little "haggling" if a trade-in is involved but nothing like the old days.

But, since I am the only one who doesn't enjoy "haggling" I will continue the practice of building in some fake money into my asking price so that the buyer feels he got me. If that's what it takes to sell the item then so be it. The buyer gets the joy of "beating up the seller" and the seller moves the item. It's a win-win scenario.

In most cases I am willing to haggle a little bit but every now and again I list the price I want and state it as NON-Neg. When I do this and someone comes to look and offers a price even 1 dollar less than I listed I simply counter with a price that is the same amount more than My asking price. This usually gets their attention pretty quickly and if they don't reach in and pull out the cash I originally asked for with their next offer I keep the higher price and start walking away! Yes I have lost a sale here and there but the look on peoples faces is priceless!

If a buyer was to get rude or belligerent with me I would escort them from my property so very quickly they probably would stand at the end of the road with their head spinning for an hour wondering what happened! Simply put don't ever take any rude behavior from folks like that its really not worth the stress but I must admit watching him damage his truck/trailer would have gotten me laughing right at him.
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #46  
I forgot to mention misleading ad titles.

From CL this morning:

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   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #47  
Here is a good one

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Lets see, 1900sq ft /3 = ~633 lin ft.

$1600/633 = $2.53

Would you pay $2.53 per ft for used roofing/siding with holes in it and faded? He is about 3x's over priced
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #48  
I had an instance a few years ago where a guy posted an old Ford 2000 for sale on craigslist for a very good price. I responded to the ad .....[long story-> short]

"I got a guy on the way that is offering $500 more than the asking price, can you match it?"

I was speechless. I finally gathered my wits and told him he won't get a dime from me. I told him to get the tractor off my trailer and then I waited in his driveway for the other person to show up and told them what happened and that they didn't need to pay the $500 extra anymore.

I like that you stuck around and warned them.

I suspect that much of the new/near new hand portable equipment on CL and Ebay or FB is stolen/fell off a truck/walked out the back door.
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #49  
I had a guy show up to buy a car , he asked me if I would take payments , I told him sure . And when its paid for in full you can come get it .

What I wont do anymore is take a deposit , I have had buyers put down a deposit and 3 weeks later say they change their mind . Now the first person with cash gets it .
 
   / Online Selling Practices - Craigslist etc. Rant! #50  
I had a guy show up to buy a car , he asked me if I would take payments , I told him sure . And when its paid for in full you can come get it.

Another good one! I wish my mind would come up with come-backs like you guys have done. I'll try to remember these. :D
 
 
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