Operation Cool Trac PT1850

[AltavistaLawn]

Step One.
I mounted a $50.00 fan on the side where the muffler is located. This will help pull the mufflers heat away, and help pull air from the rear where the induction will be after I make it.
..more to come

 

[Barryh]

Step One.
I mounted a $50.00 fan on the side where the muffler is located. This will help pull the mufflers heat away, and help pull air from the rear where the induction will be after I make it.
..more to come

Nice move, since my 180 has no extra cooling. I was considering doing something similar. Rather than cut into the top, that looks like the way to go. I just want to make absolutely sure the air is circulating in the right direction so it helps, and does not take away from the cooling I already have. I really need to get some sort of heat sensor for on my engine. Let us know how it works out.

 

[RegL]

Step One.
I mounted a $50.00 fan on the side where the muffler is located. This will help pull the mufflers heat away, and help pull air from the rear where the induction will be after I make it.
..more to come

Is that fan plastic? Being that close to the exhaust, I would hate to see a melt down. I am interested in your results though. Any extra cooling we can get would be an improvement.

 

[Barryh]

Is that fan plastic? Being that close to the exhaust, I would hate to see a melt down. I am interested in your results though. Any extra cooling we can get would be an improvement.

Good point my initial thoughts with my 180, would be to put it on the other side to blow out exhaust heat along with more engine cooling as long as it does not interupt the flow from the back fan.

 

[BobRip]

Nice move, since my 180 has no extra cooling. I was considering doing something similar. Rather than cut into the top, that looks like the way to go. I just want to make absolutely sure the air is circulating in the right direction so it helps, and does not take away from the cooling I already have. I really need to get some sort of heat sensor for on my engine. Let us know how it works out.

Just something to consider, pull heat away from the hottest areas and bring cold air into the coolest areas. I think you realize its more complex than this since you don't want mess up the air flow from the existing engine fan.

 

[Barryh]

Just something to consider, pull heat away from the hottest areas and bring cold air into the coolest areas. I think you realize its more complex than this since you don't want mess up the air flow from the existing engine fan.

Bob, good advice. I have so many things on my list I want / need to do around here, and also with the PT my head is starting to spin.

When the time comes. You can bet I will think it out carefully. I finally have it running smoothly I wouldn't want to mess it up now. I also don't want to much drain on my 15 volt system, so many things I need to consider. Thanks for the input.

 

[AltavistaLawn]

I have about 10 hours on it so far. This fan will be wired into the Hyd Fan, so it only comes on around 220. The second fan will be mounted on the top rear of the hood to pull air from high, hopefully above the chaff and debris. This fan will run all the time.

The rear will be enclosed to force air from the main fan. The main fan will have a filter on it; if I can figure it out. I want to copy the screeners on combines.

In addition to this, the engine will get an auxilary oil cooler (with yet another fan) and be switched to Synthetic oil.

If it still runs hot, it will get an additional hydraulic oil cooler and fan.

 

[AltavistaLawn]

More mods:

Removed the fan and mounted it high to force cleaner air in to the oil cooler. The rear is enclosed now; later I'll make a screener and use screen mesh to keep out the chaff.

I also opened up the deflector, over the oil cooler; I raised it two inches and removed the sides. I saw where someone else here did this and it looks like a good idea. Next will be synthetic engine oil.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Hey Altavista...

Very Cool. I plan to mod the outtake off the engine something like yours.. A bit different.. but close... Will post next week when completed.

But I do not get the rear being closed and the new fan on the engine hood. Can you give some more info on what you did? I remember your alternator going out, so I guess you put a fan in somewhere on this chain of events???

Thanks for clearing it up.

Carl

 

[AltavistaLawn]

Woodland,
I'm hoping to force cleaner air to the oil cooler, by blocking off the rear, and inducting air in from where the fan is located. Later, thats where the aux. oil cooler will go.
I'm thinking there will be less chaff and dirt in the air above the hood.

 

[woodlandfarms]

I have to dig through your photos, but did you completely disconnect the old Generator or is still acting as a fan?

 

[AltavistaLawn]

No it still acts as a fan, you have to have it. When the belt has broken or jumped in the pasdt, it overheats quick.

 

[woodlandfarms]

That is what I thought.. Love watching your mods and seeing them in real world applications...

One idea I have is welding a piano hinge on the side oil plate.. Makng a quick release so you can get in and open it up and blow it out with out too much turning wrenches...

 

[AltavistaLawn]

That is what I thought.. Love watching your mods and seeing them in real world applications...

One idea I have is welding a piano hinge on the side oil plate.. Makng a quick release so you can get in and open it up and blow it out with out too much turning wrenches...

Ole Billy is always one to steal a great idea! One hinged access plate coming up! Also note the new much heavier alternator bracket, the old one kept breaking.

 

[woodlandfarms]

BRILLIANT!!!!!!!

How are you doing the latch on the other side?

I love it when someone steels my idea, heck I kinda took yours....

 

[AltavistaLawn]

WLF's,
I just welded a "L" onto the existing bolt, so it can be removed and replaced by hand. Later, I'll apply plasti-dip to it.

Also, it seems that often cleaning (top and bottom) of the oil cooler makes more difference in the running temps, than anything else.

I switched to Amsoil synthetic, but that didn't change anything. Also I haven't found any ports on the engine to plumb another cooler into; so I need to find a oil filter donut adaptor to get my lines out.

Billy, out.

 

[woodlandfarms]

So Billy......

Did you move the lid keeper to the other side. This evening I was making my to do list as I am down for at least a day and putting in the hinge was my next step. But my lid keeper is in the way. I assume you swapped yours but wanted to check first.

Carl

 

[AltavistaLawn]

So Billy......

Did you move the lid keeper to the other side. This evening I was making my to do list as I am down for at least a day and putting in the hinge was my next step. But my lid keeper is in the way. I assume you swapped yours but wanted to check first.

Carl

Yes;
I had forgot that, it used to be on that side. I swapped it to the other side back when we did the alternator conversion, and modified the hood.

 

[AltavistaLawn]

Some quick facts:

Specs on the oil filter is Deutz 0117 4416; crosses to WIX 7085; (a WIX 51348, same filter which fits 23 Kohler gas engines will also fit, the gasket is a bit different, but it will work); 3/4, 16 thread, 2.734 ID, 2.430 OD.
NAPA sells the adaptor to remote mount the oil filter (filter relocate kit) adapt ro engine, it plumbs to the remote filter mount...but heres the cool part. I an plumbing in an auxillary cooler to go in line on the oil line, in front of the filter.

Parts due in tomorrow, I have it scheduled in the shop Thursday, will report back with results.

 

[AltavistaLawn]

Also, temps went up after the hinge mod, its losing just a little air in the crack it created at the hinge mount points, so I need to gasket it. We checked it with a heat reading gun, the engine itself is getting to 220 to 230; hydrauklics seem 160 to 180; the muffler is nearly 500 degrees! If the aux cooler doesn't fix we'll be removing the muffler and relocating it outside the engine compartment.