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[kebo]

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Hutchinson Man Killed In Tractor Accident

April 8, 2009 05:21 PM EDT


By Roger Cornish (HUTCHINSON, Kan.)

One man was killed in a tractor accident near Hutchinson Wednesday afternoon.

The Reno County Sheriff tells Eyewitness News the man was using a small tractor to pull a 2 and a half ton truck out of sand.

The tractor flipped over backwards, pinning 57 year old Rickey Blackburn underneath.

Blackburn was pronounced dead at the scene.

The accident happened during the noon hour at 2611 D. Lorraine.




Obviously we can't possibly know all the particulars about how this accident happened, but ask yourself this question.... If that tractor operator had pulled from the front of the tractor, do you think he might still be alive today?

 

[Soundguy]

He might.. and he might be repalcing the front kingpin on his tractor as the front axle ripepd off damaging the front bolster? engine, radiator and fan and sheetmetal... or it may have done nothing with that chevron tread running backwards...

though we don't know the details.. ( that says it all ).. we are just guessing as to whether he may be alive or not. A person that does unsafe actrs is just standing in line to get his ticket punched.. if it ain't one thing.. it will be another.

guys that pull from high spots like the toplink rocker are the same ones that use hollow cell block to hold up large pieces of metal while they crawl under them.

had he pulled from a belly drawbar.. I doubt it would have backflipped on him...

soundguy

 

[kebo]

He might.. and he might be repalcing the front kingpin on his tractor as the front axle ripepd off damaging the front bolster? engine, radiator and fan and sheetmetal... or it may have done nothing with that chevron tread running backwards...

though we don't know the details.. ( that says it all ).. we are just guessing as to whether he may be alive or not. A person that does unsafe actrs is just standing in line to get his ticket punched.. if it ain't one thing.. it will be another.

guys that pull from high spots like the toplink rocker are the same ones that use hollow cell block to hold up large pieces of metal while they crawl under them.

had he pulled from a belly drawbar.. I doubt it would have backflipped on him...

soundguy

My point still seems to be getting missed by a country mile.... Ever heard of a tractor flipping over frontwards?? Didn't think so. Tractor parts can be replaced. Lives cannot.

 

[Altex]

My point still seems to be getting missed by a country mile.... Ever heard of a tractor flipping over frontwards?? Didn't think so. Tractor parts can be replaced. Lives cannot.

Yeah, but you got to try to use common sense and not try extreme things you're not sure about. If he would have known the maximum drag load on his tractor was surpassed, I don't think he would have tried the pull. I'm sure at times we all push our tractors more than they should be pushed. But, this is a reminder and a lesson of what can happen.

If you want to go farther, you could say that, if this guy never had a tractor he might still be alive, so don't buy a tractor. But, that's crazy.

I feel sorry for the loss of his family. There's risk in everything. But, that's what's great about this site and the web. We can all learn from other's experiences.

I'll still tow from my towbar because that's what it was designed for. But, I'll make sure I don't over load it. Use your FEL for towing if that suites you. But, saftey applies to all situations.

 

[tydp]

My point in all this was for newbies NOT to be told to pull from the front. Pull from the draw bar (belly hitch). It's simple physics. It's what the hitch was made for. The belly hitch is below the COG and won't cause the tractor to flip backwards. I am sorry about the accident but as Soundguy said, we don't know the particulars. I'll bet a dime against a doughnut that the truck was being pulled from the top link or from the lift arms raised above the COG. Anyway, common sense goes a long way. Good luck.

 

[Altex]

My point in all this was for newbies NOT to be told to pull from the front...

You're right!

45) Warm up you tractor for at least 10 minutes. Be patient!

I know at times you want to jump on it and go. Ya just can't wait to get it moving. But warming it up will be better for the life of your engine.

 

[CurlyDave]

My point still seems to be getting missed by a country mile.... Ever heard of a tractor flipping over frontwards?? Didn't think so. Tractor parts can be replaced. Lives cannot.

Actually, I will go you one further.

I always try to pull in reverse from grab hooks welded on the FEL. I have heard the claim that this may damage the FEL, but I can not find a single instance of FEL damage from pulling with it on TBN, and a Google search turns up nothing also.

If I keep the bucket low, the worst that I have ever had happen is that the front tilts down and the bucket hits the ground. Tractor stops. Almost instinctively I back off on the HST and the tractor comes back down on 4 wheels. No discernible damage to FEL.

Has anyone actually seen FEL damage from pulling with it?

Has anyone actually read of a credible incident of FEL damage (not a warning, real actual damage) ?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

My point still seems to be getting missed by a country mile.... Ever heard of a tractor flipping over frontwards?? Didn't think so. Tractor parts can be replaced. Lives cannot.

Actually, I will go you one further.

I always try to pull in reverse from grab hooks welded on the FEL. I have heard the claim that this may damage the FEL, but I can not find a single instance of FEL damage from pulling with it on TBN, and a Google search turns up nothing also.

If I keep the bucket low, the worst that I have ever had happen is that the front tilts down and the bucket hits the ground. Tractor stops. Almost instinctively I back off on the HST and the tractor comes back down on 4 wheels. No discernible damage to FEL.

Has anyone actually seen FEL damage from pulling with it?

Has anyone actually read of a credible incident of FEL damage (not a warning, real actual damage) ?

Oh the logic...... I have not been killed, so obviously my technique is infallable. .......... I have never personally talked with anyone who's been killed in a tractor roll-over, backwards, forward, or sideways. Have you?

I HAVE seen (first hand) loaders destroyed by pulling heavy loads in reverse. Frames bent, cylinders snapped, buckets destroyed, ect. Not to say it'll happen every time, but it happens quite frequently.

And yes, I do know of a tractor that flipped over forward. (State Hwy mowing crew, attempting to "un-stuck" another tractor by pulling backwards on a slight incline. Flipped tractor was 4wd)

I've NEVER pulled anything with a tractor in reverse, ALWAYS going forward, and I'm still here, no tractors flipped, so I'm sticking with the theory that by not attempting to use a tractor beyond it's capabilities and I'll remain safe......and so will my tractor.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Hutchinson Man Killed In Tractor Accident

April 8, 2009 05:21 PM EDT


By Roger Cornish (HUTCHINSON, Kan.)

One man was killed in a tractor accident near Hutchinson Wednesday afternoon.

The Reno County Sheriff tells Eyewitness News the man was using a small tractor to pull a 2 and a half ton truck out of sand.

The tractor flipped over backwards, pinning 57 year old Rickey Blackburn underneath.

Blackburn was pronounced dead at the scene.

The accident happened during the noon hour at 2611 D. Lorraine.




Obviously we can't possibly know all the particulars about how this accident happened, but ask yourself this question.... If that tractor operator had pulled from the front of the tractor, do you think he might still be alive today?

Or.....By NOT attempting to use too small of a tractor to pull what was obviously too heavy of a load, he would be here today. There's dangers when using ANY machine incorrectly and/or well beyond it's capability.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

My point still seems to be getting missed by a country mile.... Ever heard of a tractor flipping over frontwards?? Didn't think so. Tractor parts can be replaced. Lives cannot.

No one is missing your point. Just seeing the GIANT misconceptions contained with-in. I HAVE seen the results of a tractor flipping over forward. (State Hwy mowing crew, pulling a stuck tractor out with a second tractor. 2nd was a 4wd, in reverse, on a slight incline. Pulling from front weight bracket, higher than axle centerline)

Use a tractor CORRECTLY and with-in it's capabilities and neither operator OR tractor needs to be replaced.