Price Check Orange Crush

   / Orange Crush #11  
I'm going to look at Kiotis for sure. I just know my next tractor will be orange. I've ruled out the other colors (I shop for everything by color). Those prices are pretty compelling. James did you say your loader is TOO fast? I usually use mine pretty slow, wouldn't want it moving too fast and bouncing everything around.


It is alright, it is just "snappy" and a little bit faster than the L3400, which was pretty fast.. I noticed a difference in the DK40se they seemed a little slow to me..I guess the larger cylinders take more time to fill up. It is a very minor thing. I am used to it already.

James K0UA
 
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#12  
Went to S&H today to look at some Kiotis. I like the size of the CK35! It felt more substantial than the Kubota B tractors. It felt awkward to sit in, though. I also liked the DK35. It seemed like just the right size, plenty of ground clearance but not too big. The only thing I didn't like was the loader control. I'm real skinny, but my leg was still in the way of full curl position.

I got an ugly price from the salesman. $22k for the DK35 HST, $23.5k for the DK40 HST. It seems to me like he was trying to steer me up to the DK40 (which would be awesome, believe me, but the size is just beyond what I want). The loader on the DK40 is such a jump in power that it almost silly not to get it. But anyway.

It seems to me like the Kubota dealer struck out with what is probably pretty close to his best price, and the Kioti dealer quoted a price he could negotiate from. The Kioti price included R4 tires but no cutting edge. The Kioti guy said he'd never sold a tractor with R1 tires and a cutting edge, so he's supposed to call me tomorrow when he finds out how that would affect the price.

I went to the Kioti dealer thinking I was wasting my time but needed to do my due diligence, but I really liked the tractors (still have not test driven any of the tractors in question). But then the price shocked me so much that for me personally, if those prices are stiff, then the Kubota would be a no-brainer. Everyone might not agree on which is better, but for me I'd go Kubota for that price difference.

So tomorrow I'm going to test drive the Kubota, and if the Kioti guy calls me back I'll probably swing over and test drive that one, too. Then I'll have to work on hammering down a final price from both dealers.

Observations: liked the fit and finish and styling of both brands

Without having actually used them, I'm guessing I would prefer the two-pedal HST operation vs the treadle pedal.

I don't know if I could get over the loader control on the Kioti. Has anyone replaced or "fixed" theirs? They got it right on the darn CKs!
 
   / Orange Crush #13  
I thought "Orange Crush" meant you were looking at KTM's. :laughing:
 
   / Orange Crush #14  
Without having actually used them, I'm guessing I would prefer the two-pedal HST operation vs the treadle pedal.

The GrandL treadle can also be used as a two-pedal device, since it sticks out extra wide at the top for the forward position. This is how I use mine, I do not like the treadle either. You can kind of see it in the picture. Took me about 5 minutes to get used to it. Philip.
 

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   / Orange Crush #15  
ddb123 said:
Went to S&H today to look at some Kiotis. I like the size of the CK35! It felt more substantial than the Kubota B tractors. It felt awkward to sit in, though. I also liked the DK35. It seemed like just the right size, plenty of ground clearance but not too big. The only thing I didn't like was the loader control. I'm real skinny, but my leg was still in the way of full curl position.

I got an ugly price from the salesman. $22k for the DK35 HST, $23.5k for the DK40 HST. It seems to me like he was trying to steer me up to the DK40 (which would be awesome, believe me, but the size is just beyond what I want). The loader on the DK40 is such a jump in power that it almost silly not to get it. But anyway.

It seems to me like the Kubota dealer struck out with what is probably pretty close to his best price, and the Kioti dealer quoted a price he could negotiate from. The Kioti price included R4 tires but no cutting edge. The Kioti guy said he'd never sold a tractor with R1 tires and a cutting edge, so he's supposed to call me tomorrow when he finds out how that would affect the price.

I went to the Kioti dealer thinking I was wasting my time but needed to do my due diligence, but I really liked the tractors (still have not test driven any of the tractors in question). But then the price shocked me so much that for me personally, if those prices are stiff, then the Kubota would be a no-brainer. Everyone might not agree on which is better, but for me I'd go Kubota for that price difference.

So tomorrow I'm going to test drive the Kubota, and if the Kioti guy calls me back I'll probably swing over and test drive that one, too. Then I'll have to work on hammering down a final price from both dealers.

Observations: liked the fit and finish and styling of both brands

Without having actually used them, I'm guessing I would prefer the two-pedal HST operation vs the treadle pedal.

I don't know if I could get over the loader control on the Kioti. Has anyone replaced or "fixed" theirs? They got it right on the darn CKs!

Check your inbox....thanks
 
   / Orange Crush #16  
Observations: liked the fit and finish and styling of both brands

Without having actually used them, I'm guessing I would prefer the two-pedal HST operation vs the treadle pedal.

I don't know if I could get over the loader control on the Kioti. Has anyone replaced or "fixed" theirs? They got it right on the darn CKs!

We have tractors with both treadle and twin pedals and for us it is pretty much a wash with an ever so slight preference for the treadle. It wouldn't sway us one way or the other. Some have reported hitting the wrong pedal with the side by side arrangement and my father in law actually put his in the pond this way when he first got it, but for the vast majority it's a non issue. Once he got accustomed to it, he really like it.
 
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#17  
Drove a Kubota L3240 today at the lot. Uh, I liked it! Spent several minutes playing with the various features of the HST+ and using the loader control. Having used it, I really liked the treadle. The other pedals -- brake and clutch -- were all wrong. The tractor still felt a little too big. I like the size of the Kioti better, and the operator station on the Kioti felt really good. I much much much preferred the loader joystick on the Kubota.

Dealer recommended I forget the 3540 and either get 3240 or 3940. 3940 features bigger tractor and bigger price - same loader and 4cyl (dealer prefers 4cyl).

James will be happy to know that I LOVED the hydrostat.

All prices include R1 tires and quick attach. I decided to forgo the cutting edge. These are also the financed prices.

L3240
$21,979

L3540
$23,559

L3940
$25,099
 
   / Orange Crush #18  
The other pedals -- brake and clutch -- were all wrong.

The ONLY time I ever use the clutch is for starting and engaging pto. The brake pedals are on the wrong side, but this keeps you from braking and engaging hst at same time. I hardly ever use brakes for stopping, just let up on the hst pedal. I do use them in lock position when on trailer. The only time I have really used the brakes is when plowing snow. If I need to brake left or right tire, I set cruise control, then brake left or right as required. Philip.
 
   / Orange Crush #19  
James will be happy to know that I LOVED the hydrostat.

Aha.. :thumbsup: Knew you would love it... hey on the DK35se hydro..with KL351.. 19300 is where they landed with me.. good luck in which ever you choose:thumbsup:

James K0UA
 
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k0ua said:
James will be happy to know that I LOVED the hydrostat.

Aha.. :thumbsup: Knew you would love it... hey on the DK35se hydro..with KL351.. 19300 is where they landed with me.. good luck in which ever you choose:thumbsup:

James K0UA

If I could get that price I might go for it. I'm going to call the dealer in Vinita tomorrow. Are you getting used to the joystick crowding your leg a little bit? The HST was just what I'd hoped it would be: smooth to engage in forward or reverse and easy to adjust speed on the fly. I liked the HST+ features, although I'd probably spend almost every minute in Low range anyway since my place is hilly and bumpy.

That's a good point about the brake pedal setup.

Can anyone explain something to me about the telescoping links? Do you slide them out to help hook up, then just back up the tractor once they're attached? You don't leave them extended with an implement hooked up, do you?
 

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