OT; Got My Deer

   / OT; Got My Deer #41  
I've got a Brittany, a retriever and he is redish brown and white and weighs 40 lbs. and I will not let him run in the woods durring deer season, we are in the country and I hunt but we have city folks who come out here and poach and shoot at anything that moves. When we catch 'em we call the law. They have shot cows, dogs etc in the past on some of my neighbors farms...Just a few can ruin it for all.
 
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#42  
Brin...You say "when we catch 'em, we call the law."

Good for you.

Those that are caught don't return, right.??
 
   / OT; Got My Deer #43  
20 20.....Do you post your land.??

Yes, I sure do, but that doesn't stop disrespectfull people that don't care. All my neighbors in this area post their land and atleast one {usually more} of us has to call DEC atleast once a year

Maybe you should.
So your saying it's okay to tresspass if there are no signs? Do you let strangers walk into your house in the middle of the night{or any time for that matter}? Signs or no signs in NY it is THE LAW to have permission to enter land.

And, I'll stick with my comments. Sounds to me like you had an "extreme" situation.

Not extreme at all, happens a lot see previous comment. I like how your still using the "extreme" label. :D Like I said there are hunters that have great respect, but there are others{small %} that give us ALL a bad name. You can stick with your comments and turn a blind eye, but when hunting is ruined don't cry because you decided to ignore what does happen. Like I said last year alone there were homes that got caught in the cross fire. In 1 case a child was killed in their own living room playing on the couch. Another child had just been takin out of their crib when the father heard a strange sound. After investigation they found the hole through the wall and into the crib. The "HUNTER"{I quess this is what you'd call him} was caught, charges pending.

I am not saying that hunting is bad infact I believe it can be a great thing{for the whole family}. What I am saying is that uneducated and/or disrespectfull people are out there. So just because Rambo has kool gear and a tag on his/her back DOES NOT make them a hunter !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you call the authorities or did you decide to take the law into your own hands.??

If I had takin the law into my own hands, these folks would have thought the movie "Deliverance" was a musical commedy. :eek:
 
   / OT; Got My Deer #44  
Brin you are correct, I also keep my dogs on a very tight leach. I was at a pub some years back having a couple of drinks with the local farmers. This person came in and was all excitied{you could tell "he wasn't from around here"}, he just shot the biggest deer ever. So of course everyone went out to see this huge buck. Just so happens earlier that evening one of the farmers was talking about how he was missing a small brown bull. You quessed it there was the farmers bull strapped to the back of that guys car. This happened a long time ago and is still mentioned every now and then with a few laughs. BUT how funny is it really????????
 
   / OT; Got My Deer #45  
Brin...You say "when we catch 'em, we call the law."

Good for you.

Those that are caught don't return, right.??

No, I am not aware of any of them coming back...when they are arrested they lose their guns and if they were poaching and have an illegal deer they can lose their vehicle as well ....they get a little taste of our local law enforcement and want to go back to the city real fast.
 
   / OT; Got My Deer #46  
Brin you are correct, I also keep my dogs on a very tight leach. I was at a pub some years back having a couple of drinks with the local farmers. This person came in and was all excitied{you could tell "he wasn't from around here"}, he just shot the biggest deer ever. So of course everyone went out to see this huge buck. Just so happens earlier that evening one of the farmers was talking about how he was missing a small brown bull. You quessed it there was the farmers bull strapped to the back of that guys car. This happened a long time ago and is still mentioned every now and then with a few laughs. BUT how funny is it really????????

I had a neighbor that had a pet long horn bull years ago and it was shot...he just happened to be looking out over his pasture and saw his bull standing way out in the pasture at the edge of the woods when all of a sudden he heard a shot and saw the bull drop...he got in his truck and headed that way and just as he pulled up the shooter came out of the woods to claim his deer...needless to say...the DNR and sheriff were called....really sad that was a pet...I think it happens more than we know..it just does not make the news or certainly the national news. The guy that pulled up to the pub with the bull strapped on must have been in for a shock....funny now but should not have happened.
 
   / OT; Got My Deer #47  
They also use the fake deer and bear by the side of the road up here. These things look just like the real thing, even have movement. They placed a {fake}bear a few weeks back along side of 1 of our back roads. Last I knew they were up to 9 illegal tickets handed out. Shooting to close to a public highway, shooting to close to a house, not the proper lic, hunting after hrs. etc...

I know that NY is not the only place that has it's share of troubles. I also lived in KY for a short time and saw much of the same thing.
 
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#48  
Look, it happens here in Maine too. But, it doesn't happen often enough to threaten our heritage of hunting.

The percentage of these incidents compared to the number of hunters is waay low.

And about the fake bear or deer....It is entrapment in a sense and IMO, rather than set someone up, which can be dangerous in it's self, why aren't the authorities going out to help real people with real problems.??

Hmmm....Do they have too much time on their hands.??

The hunting problems here in Maine are few and far between. Look at the numbers.
 
   / OT; Got My Deer #49  
Look, it happens here in Maine too. But, it doesn't happen often enough to threaten our heritage of hunting.

The percentage of these incidents compared to the number of hunters is waay low.

And about the fake bear or deer....It is entrapment in a sense and IMO, rather than set someone up, which can be dangerous in it's self, why aren't the authorities going out to help real people with real problems.??

Hmmm....Do they have too much time on their hands.??

The hunting problems here in Maine are few and far between. Look at the numbers.

There is almost a culture difference between NY and Maine; whereas we have enjoyed free access to vast tracts of land; much of that similar land in NY has been tied up in hunting leases for years; people pay big bucks to join these clubs, and the laws protect them accordingly. Ironically I've found that, although they pay for the privelege of using the land these hunting lease holders have more respect for the landowner's right to cut wood and use the land than we Mainers do.

(I.E.; To my knowledge they have never had anything like our "Ban clearcutting" referendum, and Jonathan Carter would never survive there.)

On the other hand the economy around the Adirondack Forest is permanently stunted, just as it will be if the National North Maine Woods Park ever is realised.

As population increases in Maine we are going to seee more conflicts. I WILL NOT hunt my old stomping grounds around Auburn and Minot because of incidents there, mostly by adjacent landowners, not hunters. Yet it is up to us as hunters to be "ambassadors for the future" .

Sorry for the long post, but this is very dear to me. As a hunter and lifelong Mainer I'm accustomed to hunting where I want; but as a small landowner and representative of large landowners (the company I work for manages about 1.5million acres) I see things differntly than the average sportsman.
I would like to see ALL Maine sportsmen become as organised as the MSA; then sit down with the major landowners of this state and chart a course for the future.


Anyways, back to the original post; glad you got your deer. I have no doubt that by now you've enjoyed the tenderloins.
RHW
 
   / OT; Got My Deer #50  
Look, it happens here in Maine too. But, it doesn't happen often enough to threaten our heritage of hunting.

The percentage of these incidents compared to the number of hunters is waay low.

And about the fake bear or deer....It is entrapment in a sense and IMO, rather than set someone up, which can be dangerous in it's self, why aren't the authorities going out to help real people with real problems.??

Hmmm....Do they have too much time on their hands.??

The hunting problems here in Maine are few and far between. Look at the numbers.

About 5-6 years ago, one of the people caught shooting at a fake deer was a Maine State Trooper if I remember correctly. :D

I don't think the fakes are entrapment, more like an intelligence or integrity test - you can choose to shoot illegally or not. Those who shoot at the fakes, sure don't belong out in the woods IMHO, I am glad they get caught. Real entrapment would be something like putting a fake deer out that would be almost legal except for some small detail, then charging those who shoot at it.

Remember the lady who was shot dead by a deer hunter at dusk a couple years back? She was hanging laundry in her own backyard. Rare, yes but it happens.

I don't post my land, local hunters wander through every year, never had a problem. But I wear the blaze orange and keep the dogs extra close during deer season. And I don't go deep into the woods during season either. When I was a kid hunting with my father, people gave access to hunt on their land, I try to 'pay that forward'.
Dave.
 

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