Patio Refrigerator and Freezer Question?

[Torvy]

That should be a big enough upgrade to raise the rent, no?

 

[ultrarunner]

So far city has frozen increases and evictions.

If tenant were to freely vacate home would rent easily for $800 a month more... just like SF with some paying $600 and the identical apartment down the hall is $3,000

 

[4570Man]

So far city has frozen increases and evictions.

If tenant were to freely vacate home would rent easily for $800 a month more... just like SF with some paying $600 and the identical apartment down the hall is $3,000

I expected that was the case when you made the first post. I wouldn’t pay a dime for a new refrigerator or to add additional circuits. It meets electric code. He can pound sand or spend his own money if he doesn’t like it. Did you perform a load test? Just measuring voltage doesn’t prove a lot. Try plugging in a hair dryer and measuring the load at the same time. You should probably use the low heat setting for a fair test since bathroom circuits are 20 amp therefore a hair dryer wasn’t intended to work on 15 amps.

 

[ultrarunner]

I expected that was the case when you made the first post. I wouldn’t pay a dime for a new refrigerator or to add additional circuits. It meets electric code. He can pound sand or spend his own money if he doesn’t like it. Did you perform a load test? Just measuring voltage doesn’t prove a lot. Try plugging in a hair dryer and measuring the load at the same time. You should probably use the low heat setting for a fair test since bathroom circuits are 20 amp therefore a hair dryer wasn’t intended to work on 15 amps.

Yes… with Load Tester.

current passed but voltage drop failed… i.e. exceeded 10% drop.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I'd rather pay to upgrade the house than to pay to buy a fridge or freezer.

 

[4570Man]

I'd rather pay to upgrade the house than to pay to buy a fridge or freezer.

Not the landlords problem IMO. He lives in a house built in the 60s and he has a refrigerator in the kitchen that works fine. The other 2 are optional. The tenant can pay the cost of adding a dedicated circuit to run the second refrigerator and freezer.

 

[4570Man]

Yes… with Load Tester.

current passed but voltage drop failed… i.e. exceeded 10% drop.

How much drop did you get under what load?

 

[4570Man]

Yes… with Load Tester.

current passed but voltage drop failed… i.e. exceeded 10% drop.

Just out of curiosity I did a load test in my garage which is 12 gauge wiring. Under no load 123 volts. Running my heat gun on full output it dropped to and maintained 116 volts. Then I plugged in a 25 foot 14 gauge cord on the same outlet and repeated the test plugged into the cord. This time it dropped to and maintained 111 volts. That’s actually less drop than I expected although the test didn’t last long. I would expect it to drop more as the cord heated up.

 

[grsthegreat]

Just out of curiosity I did a load test in my garage which is 12 gauge wiring. Under no load 123 volts. Running my heat gun on full output it dropped to and maintained 116 volts. Then I plugged in a 25 foot 14 gauge cord on the same outlet and repeated the test plugged into the cord. This time it dropped to and maintained 111 volts. That’s actually less drop than I expected although the test didn’t last long. I would expect it to drop more as the cord heated up.

Now, place an amp meter on the heat gun plugged directly into outlet, then read it when plugged into extension cord.

 

[4570Man]

Now, place an amp meter on the heat gun plugged directly into outlet, then read it when plugged into extension cord.

That’s what I did. No load voltage of the outlet 123 volts. Heat gun on max, voltage 116, heat gun on max plugged into the cord 111 volts.