Patio Refrigerator and Freezer Question?
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jaxs
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Historically other states have adopted rules,laws and way of living a few years after California put them in place. If you don't approve of how people must live in California,don't be complacent with how things are in your state. The pandemic has opened a door to fast track many changes to California ways.
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This is true...
Outward migration of those with means and not necessarily a true appreciation/respect for where they land will likely continue.
The transformation here started roughly 40 years ago with with a simple and might even say workable rent control but things seldom stay simple once established.
Hope today to make a site visit...
The widow of the original owner told me the patio outlet was put in at the time the permitted patio cover built and it was only used for a radio listening to the Oakland A's and hedge trimmer...
The wife didn't appreciate a long extension cord running out her back kitchen door!
At least dealing with frozen water pipes has only been a problem for me once in 38 years when temps dropped to single digits.
Can't imagine the typical mild climate tenant would fare well in a climate where snow is normal.
Outward migration of those with means and not necessarily a true appreciation/respect for where they land will likely continue.
The transformation here started roughly 40 years ago with with a simple and might even say workable rent control but things seldom stay simple once established.
Hope today to make a site visit...
The widow of the original owner told me the patio outlet was put in at the time the permitted patio cover built and it was only used for a radio listening to the Oakland A's and hedge trimmer...
The wife didn't appreciate a long extension cord running out her back kitchen door!
At least dealing with frozen water pipes has only been a problem for me once in 38 years when temps dropped to single digits.
Can't imagine the typical mild climate tenant would fare well in a climate where snow is normal.
jaxs
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Some common reasons for service calls to rental property in Tx I've dealt with.
Sewer backing up or toilet overflowing because waste basket in bathroom is too small or misplaced.
Entry door busted because tenant's key wouldn't unlock it.
" " " " tenant lost key and they couldn't wait for management to unlock because it was 3am and they needed to get in bed.
Light bulb burned out.
Here's one that is the epitome of multi-family. I was on site for a boiler replacement when the maintenance tech got a panic call from leasing office about a half naked man laying in the parking lot. We found a bare chested man in pj bottoms and house shoes. He was concous but incoherent so I called 911. When ambulance left with him I yelled to to galkers "If one of you are ever in a accident I hope people call a maintenance man instead of 911." I pretty much told the leasing agent the same thing. I learned to be very selective of companies i contracted with which included only a select few multi-family communities.
Sewer backing up or toilet overflowing because waste basket in bathroom is too small or misplaced.
Entry door busted because tenant's key wouldn't unlock it.
" " " " tenant lost key and they couldn't wait for management to unlock because it was 3am and they needed to get in bed.
Light bulb burned out.
Here's one that is the epitome of multi-family. I was on site for a boiler replacement when the maintenance tech got a panic call from leasing office about a half naked man laying in the parking lot. We found a bare chested man in pj bottoms and house shoes. He was concous but incoherent so I called 911. When ambulance left with him I yelled to to galkers "If one of you are ever in a accident I hope people call a maintenance man instead of 911." I pretty much told the leasing agent the same thing. I learned to be very selective of companies i contracted with which included only a select few multi-family communities.
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Transitioning from rentals with beds to commercial NNN has been a godsend...
Just a few legacy remain... mostly good people but in 35+ years seen a lot... especially since I started out managing Section 8 properties others had given up on.
One move that had greatly cut down service calls is no longer furnishing any freestanding appliances...
No more $500 of meat spoiled on 4th of July or ruined Thanksgiving dinner because stove not working... so far tenant caused.
Plumbing is always at top of list... great down drain, toys in toilet... etc.
One "Free" call and then billed accordingly thereafter...
Just a few legacy remain... mostly good people but in 35+ years seen a lot... especially since I started out managing Section 8 properties others had given up on.
One move that had greatly cut down service calls is no longer furnishing any freestanding appliances...
No more $500 of meat spoiled on 4th of July or ruined Thanksgiving dinner because stove not working... so far tenant caused.
Plumbing is always at top of list... great down drain, toys in toilet... etc.
One "Free" call and then billed accordingly thereafter...
EddieWalker
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I admire your ability to deal with tenants and the government. Seems like both are trying real hard to force you out of business and make life as hard as possible. With so many restrictions, will you be able to sell everything and retire when the time is right?
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If only a crystal ball...
Liquidating always an option but can't help but feel we have not seen real inflation yet.
This morning replaced domestic water regulator... probably original and buried in the dirt... had to find it first.
Utility water pressure 200+/- which cause all kinds of problems from toilet valves to water heater pressure relief...
New one in place and now 55 psi which is plenty.
Tenant with freezer at work now so not able to access... maybe later today?
Liquidating always an option but can't help but feel we have not seen real inflation yet.
This morning replaced domestic water regulator... probably original and buried in the dirt... had to find it first.
Utility water pressure 200+/- which cause all kinds of problems from toilet valves to water heater pressure relief...
New one in place and now 55 psi which is plenty.
Tenant with freezer at work now so not able to access... maybe later today?
dlctcg
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I would think that if the unit in question failed even after 3 months would not be covered under warranty... unless it was rated for outside use... which would be a much more expensive appliance... I completely understand keeping a good tenant... but if they supplied an outdoor rated appliance & it failed I would be looking at this differently... I don't think this is the case..
grsthegreat
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If appliance is under a cover, and not getting direct rain on it, i don’t see why being outdoors would be an issue. I see lots of units in garages and beck covered porches and still work good after years.
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Update....
I spent some time mapping the circuit...
It is a 15 amp with outlets in Dining Room and Rear Bedroom and single Back Porch Outlet and two patio lights.
The Extension Cord is 14ga and 15' long...
At the buss I get 122 volts, at the breaker 121 volts and at patio GFCI 119 volts.
House wired in the 1960's and all two prong except kitchen is grounded and patio GFCI.
On a side note the house is full of outlet strips with lots of electronics and rice cooker, micro, toaster oven, hair dryer, etc
Tenant today said he is willing to pay for a 20 amp breaker and I said it doesn't work that way unless the wire is also sized for 20 amp.
To add a dedicated patio circuit which would mean a new split half size breaker as all panel slots used.
I spent some time mapping the circuit...
It is a 15 amp with outlets in Dining Room and Rear Bedroom and single Back Porch Outlet and two patio lights.
The Extension Cord is 14ga and 15' long...
At the buss I get 122 volts, at the breaker 121 volts and at patio GFCI 119 volts.
House wired in the 1960's and all two prong except kitchen is grounded and patio GFCI.
On a side note the house is full of outlet strips with lots of electronics and rice cooker, micro, toaster oven, hair dryer, etc
Tenant today said he is willing to pay for a 20 amp breaker and I said it doesn't work that way unless the wire is also sized for 20 amp.
To add a dedicated patio circuit which would mean a new split half size breaker as all panel slots used.
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