Pave Your Own Driveway?

   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #61  
Even the highway pavers will have 6 to 8 people working behind it.
Those are the guys holding up the shovels, not necessarily using them.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #62  
In most paving/concrete jobs where all the workers are really busy scurrying around it’s an indication there are not enough workers or the job process are not going well!

The more competent the crew the less work they seem to do.

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   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #63  
In most paving/concrete jobs where all the workers are really busy scurrying around it’s an indication there are not enough workers or the job process are not going well!

The more competent the crew the less work they seem to do.
VERY true!
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #64  
When I’m talking a concrete paver that doesn’t need much if any hand work it’s the kind that does highways and interstate highways. The trucks just dump on the ground in front of it and the machine augers it from there. There is even an arm that follows behind it and swings back and forth to finish it. I’ve seen similar ones used on airport runways and taxi ways.

We hauled concrete in dump trucks to a job at a US Customs commercial vehicle crossing a few years ago. The concrete was so stiff, probably a zero slump, that there was nothing for a crew to do when it came out of the paving machine. I didn't get out of my dump truck to measure it, but it appeared to be 10" or more thick and the sides held their shape. For as much concrete as we dumped there really wasn't much crew, a coupe of guys on the machine, one or two spotters to spot where to dump, and of course federal and state inspectors.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #65  
Is the drive on flat ground? If so you can form it and pour it at about 6 slump. No wetter that that. If on a hill, you may want a 4 or 5 slump. The drier slump will require MORE work. You will need at least 3 good people on each day you pour. One person to operate the chute to keep the truck moving and pour appropriate amounts. Two other with jitterbug or come alongs to level - and a screed to drag. Then float. After the truck leaves, it will soon be time to brush, groove and edge the sections. Someone will have to be familiar with the stages of set progression to know when to Brush, groove and edge. Have a cooler on site with about 2 cases of water (NOT beer). Anything less than these resources, then DON't do it.

I poured my drive using forms. 40 Yards

Concrete is a fantastic material. It is somewhat expensive and very desireable, UNLESS in the wrong place or unfinished, then it is MORE expensive and less desireable.
 
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Is the drive on flat ground? If so you can form it and pour it at about 6 slump. No wetter that that. If on a hill, you may want a 4 or 5 slump. The drier slump will require MORE work. You will need at least 3 good people on each day you pour. One person to operate the chute to keep the truck moving and pour appropriate amounts. Two other with jitterbug or come alongs to level - and a screed to drag. Then float. After the truck leaves, it will soon be time to brush, groove and edge the sections. Someone will have to be familiar with the stages of set progression to know when to Brush, groove and edge. Have a cooler on site with about 2 cases of water (NOT beer). Anything less than these resources, then DON't do it.

Concrete is a fantastic material. It is somewhat expensive and very desireable, UNLESS in the wrong place or unfinished, then it is MORE expensive and less desireable.
The drive is on mostly flat ground. There is a small hill at one end leading up to the parking area - maybe 20' of rise.
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #67  
We hauled concrete in dump trucks to a job at a US Customs commercial vehicle crossing a few years ago. The concrete was so stiff, probably a zero slump, that there was nothing for a crew to do when it came out of the paving machine. I didn't get out of my dump truck to measure it, but it appeared to be 10" or more thick and the sides held their shape. For as much concrete as we dumped there really wasn't much crew, a coupe of guys on the machine, one or two spotters to spot where to dump, and of course federal and state inspectors.

What kind of outfit did they have to load the dump trucks?
 
   / Pave Your Own Driveway? #68  
What kind of outfit did they have to load the dump trucks?
It was a wet batch system the company had built at their newest batch plant. We just drove through and parked under the boot they use for loading mixer trucks. They claimed the first job they did with the set up paid for it, concrete apron at the passenger terminal at Bellingham Airport. For engineered concrete it is ideal, every batch is identical, not depending on the mixer driver to add too little or too much water and the differences between a new drum and fins and one that is about shot.
 
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How far can you haul concrete in a dump truck?
 

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