Payloader gone wild

[chopped]

wow check this video out..
YouTube - Out of control city tow truck destroys parked SUV on Brooklyn street

it just keeops going and going apparently doesnt know how to use the roll bucket method

 

[jimmyj]

Goodness sakes, that is pretty weak to say the least. What was the guy thinking?

 

[zzvyb6]

As a former New Yorker, I can attest to the attitude and skill level? of City employees. Oh, BTW: being union members, they can never be fired. Its actually amazing that they could get two operating workers involved in the same location for any purpose whatsoever.

The other possibility, of course, is that there was a grudge against the truck's owner (perhaps for complaining about the lack of snow removal) and this is called payback. If the truck owner refused to pay a 'service fee' for this special consideration, the same action would be taken.

And you wonder why America is spiraling down the sewer ? Please spare me the details.

 

[chopped]

would they alos not be heald accountable to the law??

 

[crazyal]

I watched this and all I can say is how would you get a 25k lb piece of equipment unstuck in a spot like that? People want their streets cleaned the second the snow stops falling but think that a large loader can just move around cars on tight streets like it's magic. Sure it would have been nice to not hurt the state owned SUV but it's no different than a tow truck pulling a wrecked car out of a ditch. Sometimes it's just not possible not to cause more damage.

 

[crazyal]

The other possibility, of course, is that there was a grudge against the truck's owner (perhaps for complaining about the lack of snow removal) and this is called payback. If the truck owner refused to pay a 'service fee' for this special consideration, the same action would be taken.

It was a state (or maybe city) owned truck that was given to a different agency because it had almost 100k on it. No grudge. just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[jpm]

chopped no its the city . the owner will get a repair but in a snow emergency he will be lucky not to get fined for parking on the street. now i remember why i moved.on the news yesterday some @@# was complaining about the snow because he pays taxes!!

 

[chopped]

chains..

 

[Window Geek]

Man! How about payloader gone stupid? The tow truck driver was wearing his "I don't give a *darn*" hat, too!.:mur:

 

[LD1]

I have only got two thoughts/questions on this video.

First, are things different with big equipment?? or why didn't he try using the loader to push himself out a bit???

And second, why in thw workd would the wrecker try to jerk him out?? Why not use the winch??

 

[chopped]

I was thinking the same thing about the winch but decided that maybe it would just pull the truck backwards. Or maybe they would have had to be in the outside to operate it.
Anyways it seems to be a 'city' thing. I should have seen that...
Thers also another post on here about it. all interesting responces..

 

[LD1]

I was thinking the same thing about the winch but decided that maybe it would just pull the truck backwards. Or maybe they would have had to be in the outside to operate it.
Anyways it seems to be a 'city' thing. I should have seen that...
Thers also another post on here about it. all interesting responces..

It would create more line force with the winch than just spinning the tires.

Besides, if they used the winch, some wreckers have outriggers they could have "planted". If not, they could have chocked the tires.

 

[MiserableOldFart]

Is it established that both the truck driver and the equipment operator are city employees? Wouldn't jump to that conclusion as we live in an age where "contracting out" public services is a very popular way to do things. I'd like to hear the entire story behind this mess. I was a union steward in the public sector for a good many years, and both these guys would have been gone without my being able to do diddly to save their jobs.

 

[Tig]

I watched this and all I can say is how would you get a 25k lb piece of equipment unstuck in a spot like that?

Not really a difficult puzzle. Tow the the car and truck out of harms way.
It's done during every snow storm up here in the great white north.
Specifically addressing what I see in that video the tow driver would not be capable of towing a car. Add that to the guy who can't control the loader and I'll put the blame on whoever sent them out in the snow.

I saw a news report on this. Both the car and truck were beat up. Both privately owned by the same family. The husband works for the city and uses the truck for his job. City has agreed to pay for the repair.
I'm wondering about insurance for deliberate damage like this. Personally I would not my insurance company paying out when we know the damage was deliberate and the culprits were caught in the act.

 

[crazyal]

Not really a difficult puzzle. Tow the the car and truck out of harms way.
It's done during every snow storm up here in the great white north.
Specifically addressing what I see in that video the tow driver would not be capable of towing a car. Add that to the guy who can't control the loader and I'll put the blame on whoever sent them out in the snow.

I saw a news report on this. Both the car and truck were beat up. Both privately owned by the same family. The husband works for the city and uses the truck for his job. City has agreed to pay for the repair.
I'm wondering about insurance for deliberate damage like this. Personally I would not my insurance company paying out when we know the damage was deliberate and the culprits were caught in the act.

How many other cars are off camera that you can't see that would also need to be removed? Once you remove them what do you do with them? Have you ever had your car towed in NYC? It's rare to have your car towed and not get damaged. How many other plow vehicles also go stuck and are in need of being pulled out? Where the tow truck drivers running around like mad because of all the vehicles being stuck?

 

[Tig]

Watch the end of the video. Only the two cars that get mashed are in the way and the cross street is clear. No excuse for what they did other than stupidity.
I have no doubt that the guy in the tow truck has no clue what he is doing and could not tow a vehicle without damaging it. Yanking on a loader with a chain? Pretty useless technique. As previously mentioned a real tow operator would have winched.
I realize that NYC is not prepared for snow like cities up here are, but the only thing missing from this video is common sense.

 

[dmccarty]

Watch the end of the video. Only the two cars that get mashed are in the way and the cross street is clear. No excuse for what they did other than stupidity.
I have no doubt that the guy in the tow truck has no clue what he is doing and could not tow a vehicle without damaging it. Yanking on a loader with a chain? Pretty useless technique. As previously mentioned a real tow operator would have winched.
I realize that NYC is not prepared for snow like cities up here are, but the only thing missing from this video is common sense.

And the tow truck could have gotten a better angle on the loader. There was plenty of space on the street for him to have moved the truck over another 5 or so feet for a better pull angle on the loader.

Course I was wondering why the loader operator did not use the bucket to push his way out, or load up the bucket with show for more weight.

The fact that they kept pulling when they knew they were hitting the parked cars shows both their attitude and lack of brains. They should be fired.

Later,
Dan

 

[JB4310]

I watched this and all I can say is how would you get a 25k lb piece of equipment unstuck in a spot like that? People want their streets cleaned the second the snow stops falling but think that a large loader can just move around cars on tight streets like it's magic. Sure it would have been nice to not hurt the state owned SUV but it's no different than a tow truck pulling a wrecked car out of a ditch. Sometimes it's just not possible not to cause more damage.

Yeah I agree, I'm on this side of the issue, they made such a big deal out of that video. The operators might not of been the best but it was a snow emergency, the loader was jammed in there pretty good. I've heard the fire dept has little mercy for cars in their way as well in NY. That storm crippled the city delaying police and ambulance response by hours.

That piece of equipment was way more valuable back out on the streets than the damage done to the SUV.
"Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."(Spock)

What was inexcusable IMO, was their work stopage/slow down during such an emergency.

JB.

 

[chopped]

Its been interesting seeing the different reactions as there are two posts with this video on here.
Seemes overwelming here that it wa a fine thing to do.with that said. Regardless I think it could have been done differently. But if the attitude is to not care then all was well.We had a fieman here who treated the truck much the same ,went off road with it and tore it up. And he is long gone nowIt now up to me to just accept that these things happen and if there is the latitude to not have to care than some people will not ..