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   / Pickup Truck Needed #31  
Donnyj said:
Of course. A 7.5 on 7 cylinders will out pull a good running 5.8:p :D.

:D Well, I'd beg to differ on that.......


Now, what I said was

The 5.8L is a 351ci gas burner.. It is based on the Windsor block like the 302 and 289 that were arround forever.. Very good engine and plenty of power.. I would be more than willing to put a stock 5.8L('94 >) against any 7.5L of the same vintage as far as overal capability and certainly fuel economy..

Not that the 5.8L was all out superior, but overal the better choice for most folks.. That may have been a better way for me to have put it..:D I know I would rather have my 5.8L with gears any day...Though I would like to have it in the 3/4 ton instead..:cool: I have pulled much more than the chassis should have been expected to pull, 7,500lb would be no problem but like you said, stopping it needs to be considered too..
 
   / Pickup Truck Needed #32  
There is one item to consider about a 7.3 diesel in a Ford. Ford's powertrain warranty covers the engine until 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. There is a 100.00 deductible for each visit. In a perfect world, you could look for a F250 or F350 just less than 5 years old, and with less than 100,000. Check it out for any major engine problems and get them fixed before the warranty expires. At a recent national Ford meeting, the head of the Ford Parts and Service division state that the super duty truck owners were Fords most important customers. They know that the 6.0 has had some problems, and are willing to provide some assistance even in "gray area" warranty concerns. The original owner does have a little more leverage than the second owner however. One thing to look for when looking a a diesel is the air cleaner. Nothing will kill an engine quicker than a poorly maintained air filter. Dirt ingestion will kill a turbo and piston rings quickly. Beware of K&N type aftermarket filters. K&N says there filters never have to be replaced. They do need to be cleaned. I have seen several used diesels come into the shop with a K&N so stopped up that they have been sucked flat trying to get air past the dirt on the suface of the filter. Some people think that if you never have to replace the filter, you can just put it in and forget it. That is not the case. When looking a a used truck, a clean air filter may be a sign that the owner has taken good care of it.
 
   / Pickup Truck Needed #33  
qstott said:
There is one item to consider about a 7.3 diesel in a Ford. Ford's powertrain warranty covers the engine until 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. There is a 100.00 deductible for each visit. In a perfect world, you could look for a F250 or F350 just less than 5 years old, and with less than 100,000. Check it out for any major engine problems and get them fixed before the warranty expires. At a recent national Ford meeting, the head of the Ford Parts and Service division state that the super duty truck owners were Fords most important customers. They know that the 6.0 has had some problems, and are willing to provide some assistance even in "gray area" warranty concerns. The original owner does have a little more leverage than the second owner however. One thing to look for when looking a a diesel is the air cleaner. Nothing will kill an engine quicker than a poorly maintained air filter. Dirt ingestion will kill a turbo and piston rings quickly. Beware of K&N type aftermarket filters. K&N says there filters never have to be replaced. They do need to be cleaned. I have seen several used diesels come into the shop with a K&N so stopped up that they have been sucked flat trying to get air past the dirt on the suface of the filter. Some people think that if you never have to replace the filter, you can just put it in and forget it. That is not the case. When looking a a used truck, a clean air filter may be a sign that the owner has taken good care of it.

I would RUN from a diesel with an aftermarket oil type filter...

As for the waranty, one thing to remember(not often thought about) is that if the truck was bought back(by Ford) for problems and customer satisfaction, the waranty is gone.. So a low mileage truck may not always be as good of deal as it seems, buyer be ware..
 
   / Pickup Truck Needed #34  
qstott said:
There is one item to consider about a 7.3 diesel in a Ford. Ford's powertrain warranty covers the engine until 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. There is a 100.00 deductible for each visit. In a perfect world, you could look for a F250 or F350 just less than 5 years old, and with less than 100,000. Check it out for any major engine problems and get them fixed before the warranty expires. At a recent national Ford meeting, the head of the Ford Parts and Service division state that the super duty truck owners were Fords most important customers. They know that the 6.0 has had some problems, and are willing to provide some assistance even in "gray area" warranty concerns. The original owner does have a little more leverage than the second owner however. One thing to look for when looking a a diesel is the air cleaner. Nothing will kill an engine quicker than a poorly maintained air filter. Dirt ingestion will kill a turbo and piston rings quickly. Beware of K&N type aftermarket filters. K&N says there filters never have to be replaced. They do need to be cleaned. I have seen several used diesels come into the shop with a K&N so stopped up that they have been sucked flat trying to get air past the dirt on the suface of the filter. Some people think that if you never have to replace the filter, you can just put it in and forget it. That is not the case. When looking a a used truck, a clean air filter may be a sign that the owner has taken good care of it.


Excellent post!! There is no doubt I would take my chances with a 7.3 after warranty long before a 6.0.

HGM I believe you made a good suggestion earlier about having a qualified diesel tech perform a performance test on any used diesel before buying. That performance test will be well worth the money spent.
 
   / Pickup Truck Needed #35  
The easiest way to gain some knowledge about a vehicle is write down the Vin #, and call your local dealer. Ask them if they could give you the warranty repair history, and warranty start date. These records are kept for a few years, even after the warranty has expired. I like to see a vehicle with few warranty trips into the dealership. 2 or 3 is great, and if more than that I would hope that they would just be recalls of some sort. Repeated repairs for expensive items like injectors and turbos would tend to trouble me. If a vehicle is bougt back by Ford, and cannot be returned to "warrantyable" (is that really a word?) condition Ford will not allow the vehicle to be resold. That does not mean that an owner could become frustrated and simply trade it. The warranty history would help you find that kind of situation.
 
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Finally bought a truck. '01 Silverado Z71 / 1/2 ton / LS / 5.3 / 4x4 / Extracab / spray-in bedliner / tow package with electric brakes / 56K miles / $12,500. It appears to be well taken care of (all records) and the miles are relatively low for the year. Tires are good. I'm looking forward to picking it up on monday morning. I looked within 500 miles of VT and PA. It's the nicest rig for the money I could find since my original post.

Oil undercoat which appears to work very well in these parts, although I've never had it done personally. They superheat oil then high pressure spray it inside the door and rocker panels, under the frame, etc. Apparently one has to remember to do it now and again to be effective long term.

Thanks for all the replies. Quality posts all around.
 

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   / Pickup Truck Needed #37  
HGM said:
I would RUN from a diesel with an aftermarket oil type filter...

why?

i have an oil based aftermarket filter (aFe) in my diesel and it's fine... Of course its getting cleaned every 6 months...

Congrats on the truck, Jim. Looks really nice, keep the rust off!
 
   / Pickup Truck Needed #38  
arthr31 said:
why?

i have an oil based aftermarket filter (aFe) in my diesel and it's fine... Of course its getting cleaned every 6 months...

Congrats on the truck, Jim. Looks really nice, keep the rust off!

They only stop debris because of the oil.. On a diesel, especially, the volume of air coming through the air cleaner sucks the majority of the oil off the element very quickly..I have seen many dusted(dirt ingested/low compression)engines due to these filters... Even with regimented filter service its a gamble..Also, if you happen to have a Mass Airflow Sensor, it will have a nice coating of oil on it for dirt to stick to as well, this will skew the reading... If you dont go off road, naturally your chances are better.. These filters were originally designed for racing, maximum airflow with a filter element(better than no filter at all:D )... Now, everyone sells them as the "required" first modification.. Bad idea..
 
   / Pickup Truck Needed #39  
hmm. thanks for the persective. I don't go off road, unless you call my dirt driveway, field side roads, and landscape yards offroad.....

I do like the extra air, but i don't drag race, intentionally at least! :D

Would you recommend a BHAF without the oil instead? I know I don't really need to modify the filter unless i'm making big power, but i'm getting to that point already, almost 400hp on my cummins at this point... .

sorry to hijak the thread ! Nice truck Jim! Hey, i'm headed up thru randolf and then northfield to montpelier in a few weeks- are you around there ?
(I lived in northfield and barre for a few years...)
 
   / Pickup Truck Needed #40  
I wasnt familiar with the BHAF, but it looks like the way to go... Donaldson makes a filter for it and they are known to be high quality and flow.. Hate to spend your money, but that would be my recomendation... :D

K&N style filters do have their place, just not in the average Joes truck/car...

BTW, I meant to congratulate Jim as well...Nice truck, hope it fits your needs well..
 

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