Pickups the new Luxury Car?

   / Pickups the new Luxury Car? #151  
Read alot of sites on business leases. Still seems to come down to if you are buying more then you can afford. Also amount miles. If you are putting miles on leases are obviously bad, but you would probably be better off with $.55 a mile, as long as you drive enough. Which is what I do for work. Mileage exceeds standard deduction for me.

For a private person, you will not convince you are just buying more then you can afford. The heart wants what the heart wants.

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Generally speaking, a lease is preferable if you only expect to use the vehicle for three years or less, won't put excessive mileage on it, and don't want to make a large financial commitment up front. If you think you're going to keep the vehicle for at least five years and your budget allows for it, buying it outright could be the better option.
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The only time you really get a tax advantage from leasing is when you lease a hyper-expensive motorcar. If you are paying monthly lease fees of $500 or more, plug your costs into the examples above. Because the depreciation deduction is limited, the tax benefits are far higher when you lease a BMW, Eldorado, Mercedes Benz, or other high ticket car
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You can see that you need to look at the combined years to see if it痴 better to purchase or lease a business vehicle. As the price goes up on the car, leasing usually becomes more preferable. But don稚 forget if you purchased the vehicle, you can also deduct the business percentage of the interest on the vehicle痴 loan.
There is one more difference between buying and leasing a business vehicle. That difference is the disposition of the vehicle. When you dispose of a business vehicle that you own, there may be taxable gain or deductible loss. The portion of any gain that is due to depreciation will be taxed as ordinary income. When you return your leased car to the dealer, there is no taxable gain or loss.
 
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   / Pickups the new Luxury Car? #153  
Read alot of sites on business leases. Still seems to come down to if you are buying more then you can afford. Also amount miles. If you are putting miles on leases are obviously bad, but you would probably be better off with $.55 a mile, as long as you drive enough. Which is what I do for work. Mileage exceeds standard deduction for me.

For a private person, you will not convince you are just buying more then you can afford, and are reckless with your money. The heart wants what the heart wants.

*******
Generally speaking, a lease is preferable if you only expect to use the vehicle for three years or less, won't put excessive mileage on it, and don't want to make a large financial commitment up front. If you think you're going to keep the vehicle for at least five years and your budget allows for it, buying it outright could be the better option.
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The only time you really get a tax advantage from leasing is when you lease a hyper-expensive motorcar. If you are paying monthly lease fees of $500 or more, plug your costs into the examples above. Because the depreciation deduction is limited, the tax benefits are far higher when you lease a BMW, Eldorado, Mercedes Benz, or other high ticket car
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You can see that you need to look at the combined years to see if it痴 better to purchase or lease a business vehicle. As the price goes up on the car, leasing usually becomes more preferable. But don稚 forget if you purchased the vehicle, you can also deduct the business percentage of the interest on the vehicle痴 loan.
There is one more difference between buying and leasing a business vehicle. That difference is the disposition of the vehicle. When you dispose of a business vehicle that you own, there may be taxable gain or deductible loss. The portion of any gain that is due to depreciation will be taxed as ordinary income. When you return your leased car to the dealer, there is no taxable gain or loss.

It is not about what you can afford it is about what you need for a business.
The vehicle is a tool, like a hammer or a bobcat, it is there to be used to make money. that's it, I could care less what the value is at the end of the lease. We can get leases that allow for 70K a year in mileage if we want it we just need to let the leasing company know. Commercial leases are actually about 30K a year you can choose a open or closed lease you just need to let them know what you want and how much you think you will put on the vehicle a year and they build the lease to suit you.
For our company it works well and keeps fresh vehicles working for us. If the vehicle is broken I have no income and 2 employees who are not making any money so the loss of a vehicle down far exceeds any long term savings when a vehicle breaks down.
A lease may not be for everyone or a individual but for us it works well.
Now They need to make a work truck that has steel bumpers a durable seat material with certain nice amenities with rubber floor mats and I would be happy.
I find it ironic that with all the new truck sales one of the most sought after aftermarket accessories are a set of Weather Tech floor mats that are basically a fancy set of a OEM rubber floor for people who bought a fancy truck and do not want to get the interior dirty.
 
   / Pickups the new Luxury Car? #155  
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The vehicle is a tool, like a hammer or a bobcat, it is there to be used to make money. that's it, I could care less what the value is at the end of the lease. .

Obviously it is there to make money, but if want to become more successful then you are, you need to think of everything.
 
   / Pickups the new Luxury Car? #156  
I find it ironic that with all the new truck sales one of the most sought after aftermarket accessories are a set of Weather Tech floor mats that are basically a fancy set of a OEM rubber floor for people who bought a fancy truck and do not want to get the interior dirty.

I put a set in the back to help with the dog hair out. I also put Marathon seat covers on, after I wrecked the seats.
 
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Now They need to make a work truck that has steel bumpers a durable seat material with certain nice amenities with rubber floor mats and I would be happy.
I find it ironic that with all the new truck sales one of the most sought after aftermarket accessories are a set of Weather Tech floor mats that are basically a fancy set of a OEM rubber floor for people who bought a fancy truck and do not want to get the interior dirty.

Me too... several of my cars have no carpet... just rubber and it is great... two of my pickups and my old Plymouth Valiant are rubber on the floor... very practical.

One more comment on lease vs. buy...

Been involved with a lot of commercial leases... real estate leases.

Many business simply do not have or could better deploy cash flow making money as opposed to owning the building where they do business... this is even so with NNN leases where the tenant pays all costs... even the insurance for the Landlord.

A lot of very large companies that had owned their real estate decided to sell and lease back to better manage cash... they were not having cash problems... the move was to boost profits and reflect true expense...

Even my city did this... they sold the stately city hall and did a 99 year lease back... I think it is crazy... none of use will be around to know.
 
   / Pickups the new Luxury Car? #159  
I do wish trucks came standard with rubber floors. What is the point of having carpet on the floor? Even on Lincoln, what is the point?
 
   / Pickups the new Luxury Car? #160  
Me too... several of my cars have no carpet... just rubber and it is great... two of my pickups and my old Plymouth Valiant are rubber on the floor... very practical. One more comment on lease vs. buy... Been involved with a lot of commercial leases... real estate leases. Many business simply do not have or could better deploy cash flow making money as opposed to owning the building where they do business... this is even so with NNN leases where the tenant pays all costs... even the insurance for the Landlord. A lot of very large companies that had owned their real estate decided to sell and lease back to better manage cash... they were not having cash problems... the move was to boost profits and reflect true expense... Even my city did this... they sold the stately city hall and did a 99 year lease back... I think it is crazy... none of use will be around to know.

My new 1 ton is SLT level but I ordered it with the carpet delete so I have rubber floors and its a 2016. As far as steel bumpers I'm going to build my own this summer after planting. Even if the factory bumpers were steel like they used to be it wouldn't be what a lot of people want. I just look at the new thin bumpers as a motivator to do a custom bumper earlier.

A side note about carpet in vehicles. I honestly would prefer rubber floors in all my vehicles. I never understood carpet in cars or trucks just something else to have to clean.
 

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