Backhoe Pin/Bushing replacement in Woods 750 Backhoe

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The tighter you can get the pins to fit on a BH the better.

The slop gets magnified ALOT by the time you get to the end of the boom. A little slop in the pins times alot of pins times a ~10' lever (reach) amount to alot of slop once you add it all up.
 
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Yeah I notice about 1/16" clearance in the major pins equals about 6" at the bucket :)
 
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Some pics of the bushing holes being bored and the spring bushings installed. Holes were bored to 1.253 ... and true to the specs on the spring bushings, every thou over 1.250 leads to a thou extra clearance in the 1.00 ID. First one is fine, next one I'll try 1.251 to tighten it up a hair. Had to turn some of the square shank off the boring bar to reach in the hole far enough. It's only in the head about 60% as far as it should be, and it's reaching an 1" farther than it should, but seems to work well enough. No excessive chatter or anything.
Just compared the spring bushing from McMaster to the Woods part .... exactly the same, except newer, and cheaper from McMaster. Biggest pain about the job is getting the boom clamped straight on the mill.
 

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Some of the new pins made next to the old ones.

Main boom in the milling machine. Project is actually progressing with no major disasters yet (knock wood).

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   / Pin/Bushing replacement in Woods 750 Backhoe #36  
Looking good, you should be back in business soon.
 
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Got the swing frame spherical bearings replaced .... pain the A for sure. Once pressed on they ain't coming off, so I had to cut one of my new bearings off when I installed it in the wrong order. Little help from the wife today and got it installed back in the main frame with lots of pounding of pins into bearings, and bearings on to pins. I can only assume the factory has a giant press jig to press it all together at one time. But now that they are done I doubt they will need to be replaced for many hundreds of hours as long as they are kept greased. Swing frame now is totally without any slop whatsoever and moves smooth as butter. Couple more holes to bore and the booms will start going back on.
 
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Job is now complete ... all in all, two new swivel (spherical bushings)s in the main boom, new pins on all pivot points, all pivots, including bucket, bored and new spring bushings installed. Made six of the pins, bought two, bought about a dozen bushings, the two spherical bushings and some small hardware .... total cost excluding the new boring bar I had to buy ... was about $300. Labor 10-12 hours, much of it was spent fixturing the booms in the mill, and doing the boring. I would suggest a 4" boring head and the largest boring bar that will fit in the hole because some of the holes are 5+ inches deep. Although a 3" head and a carbide insert with a small (sharp) radius seems to work too.

After assembly there is pretty much zero slop in the boom when full extended ... maybe 1/8" inch if you are very precise watching boom/tractor movement. Previously it was about 4" at the end of the boom. Overall it turned out better than I thought, and was slightly less of a PITA than I thought it would be. Broke one fitting during hose removal, $3 for a new one, found one missing swivel fitting $3. Replaced all the fluid and filter (don't use the Fram P1654A equivalent of a WIX 51553 as the Fram tries to bottom out on the filter housing ... it will work, but needs to be tightened too far).

Other than the valve body feeling like it needs a bit of a tune up .... relief valve seems a bit weak, check valves bypassing a tad, and shock dampening valves seem a bit sticky ..... it's almost as good as new. At some point I'll have to bother the experts here about the possibility of adjusting the relief valve a small amount (if possible), and the steps and/or possibility of rebuilding some of the valves. But ... still the hoe is very usable, quite controllable, delicate work not a problem.
All in all .... considering this would probably have run up a $2500 bill at a shop .... I think it was worth it.
 
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Good job! Tight machines are always a pleasure to run!

Carbide shank boring bars are another option, can be pricy though
 
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Yep ... someone else mentioned that to me .... the price for a 8" long carbide bar is pretty steep :)

As per usual I found the sweet spot for rpm, down feed and bar/insert right about the time I finished the job. Carbide can be strange ... sometimes when you get chatter seems the way to solve it is to go faster and higher feed rather than the reverse if using high speed steel. Unfortunately machining is just a small part of the work I do in the shop, so I haven't really accumulated the knowledge I should have to solve problems. Big issue on this job was a large radius corner insert would chatter, but the tip wouldn't break, the tight radius corner inserts would chatter way less, but they would chip, specially when boring past the zerk holes. And of course it was difficult to get a boom fixutred on the table as rigidly as it should be. Luckily the bushing holes didn't need a perfect finish, just an accurate size.
 
 

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