Place to get a spare key made???

[1danny]

Does anyone know where a guy could get a spare key made for a Yanmar? I always worry when only have 1 key for something. Didn't know if maybe a hardware store or a key store would have an appropriate blank . Has anyone had any luck with this issue?

Any of these look like your key?

Danny

 

[careyo63]

Why alienate them by letting them know it is for a brand they don't sell?

Don't you mean anymore? It was my understanding that the YM 2000 and the JD 240 are basicly the same made for them by Yanmar. I even share the same Eng. 2TR20A-A . I also use A 5103 that I keep up with and came from the same dealer. I saved them all kinds of problems under warrenty that needed to be addressed or would have been catastrophic that I noticed when I started useing it.They still had to go in and replace a push Rod and bearings with less than 100 Hrs.
I was there to get blades for a mower that was purchased from Them also. Not just a key. So you think it was to much to ask for them to sell me a 5.00 key. BS. I wouldn't buy a lawn mower from them.Oh wait a min. just so happens she has one of those also. It's a POS. my Mothers store bought Sears puts it to shame it stays torn up and in the shop.It's so bad that I bring my 2000 over to do the 3 acre front. We are tierd of it being in the shop! Rumor has it that they are not doing to well with the bad economy. Also true for the buisness that I have been in for the last 30yrs.Customer service and Word of Mouth can make or brake you. That may hit a little to close to home.
I Alienate Them alright.

Carey

 

[careyo63]

Thanks Danny sent a PM.One Looks to be it.

Carey

 

[LMTC]

Don't you mean anymore? It was my understanding that the YM 2000 and the JD 240 are basicly the same made for them by Yanmar. I even share the same Eng. 2TR20A-A . I also use A 5103 that I keep up with and came from the same dealer. I saved them all kinds of problems under warrenty that needed to be addressed or would have been catastrophic that I noticed when I started useing it.They still had to go in and replace a push Rod and bearings with less than 100 Hrs.
I was there to get blades for a mower that was purchased from Them also. Not just a key. So you think it was to much to ask for them to sell me a 5.00 key. BS. I wouldn't buy a lawn mower from them.Oh wait a min. just so happens she has one of those also. It's a POS. my Mothers store bought Sears puts it to shame it stays torn up and in the shop.It's so bad that I bring my 2000 over to do the 3 acre front. We are tierd of it being in the shop! Rumor has it that they are not doing to well with the bad economy. Also true for the buisness that I have been in for the last 30yrs.Customer service and Word of Mouth can make or brake you. That may hit a little to close to home.
I Alienate Them alright.

Carey

What? No I don't mean "anymore"; I mean what I wrote. JD (as a corporation) didn't sell the brand Yanmar, they contracted Yanmar to make specific tractors for them, to JD's specs, then later just bought engines from them. JD never had a model 240 to my knowledge. Yanmar marketed a 240 under their own name, and at any dealership that sold Yanmars at the time, and some may have been JD dealerships....but not specifically or only JD dealers. It was a second (or sometimes 3rd) line carried by a variety of dealerships.

And I never wrote that it was "to much to ask them". I simply said why alienate them? If you had some priority other than getting the key, then fine and dandy. I guess you got what you wanted. I know I'm now sorry that I bothered to stop by and tell folks how they could get the most common key for Yanmar....so I'm now closing my door on this thread. Bye.

 

[Kernopelli]

LMTC, you are right, JD never sold a 240, I think Carey was thinking of the U.S. version YM240 and kind of mixing the Yanmar/JD relation up. Carey does make a good point concerning the issue of the key. I hate that most JD dealers will act like they have no stinking clue what you're talking about when you say the word "Yanmar" when you're standing at their parts counter. I have experienced the "grey market 'tude" at the IH and Massey dealer too so it's not just a JD thing but it can be pretty insulting none the less. I learned quickly not to give them any ammunition ( alienate them) as you suggested. At the same time, if I had a $14,000 (+/-) tractor and a $2000 RFM purchased from a dealer and was giving him my continued business and he gave me an attitude over a $5.00 key, I'd be a little miffed too! I don't care if I was asking him for a key to a freaking space ship, at that point in time I think he better treat me respectfully. I think that was the crux of the story behind the key. If I was Carey, I'd be mad too! Frankly, if the dealer had never seen me before and I asked for a Yanmar key, I don't think he has license to have an attitude...is it really such a stretch? Especially knowing that I can go in his service department and find boxes that have Yanmar stamped on the packing the parts come in. Give me a break. People like that DO NOT DESERVE MY BUSINESS and I can not express or feel that strongly enough!

I was in retail business for 19yrs. and it didn't matter if we thought the customer walked on water or they were irritating, ignorant, naive, inept or stupid, we bent over backwards to treat them right. Whether it was the first time they had walked in the door or the hundredth, they got the royal treatment. One company I worked for sold to a new owner a few years after I left and the new owner did business much like Carey's JD dealer, a cocky attitude and cold customer service, everything else was pretty much the same... they lasted about 2 years before they went belly up. People may have been able to get away with that "independent" attitude in strong economies but today they better be thankful for every customer willing to patronize them and do everything they can to keep their repeat customers. It deeply grieves me to think of anyone losing their livelihood and I just could not be any more sincere when I say that but I don't feel very sympathetic for anyone that would treat a good customer that way over an issue like this. If you are going to be a jerk over something small, how are you going to treat someone over an issue that really matters?

 

[normde2001]

It's been well publicized on many forums for many years that NO legitimate tractor dealer will deal with a gray market tractor owner.

 

[careyo63]

Legitimate is begining to sound more like it needs to begin with ILL. considering they sold basicly the same thing as what is now a Gray Mkt. in thier Dealerships. Sure is funny they have no problems selling high dollar Implements to use with it or don't care for that matter!!

Don't get me Started on Gray Mkt. my Father Yrs.ago worked in OH. and retired from Ford he started in the AG.Division and was a Dealer Rep. After going over this thread and reminding me I haven't talked to him for a couple of weeks. And Guess who came up, here is a hint ryms with Pain Yep! He was right up the road back then unbelieveable the BS. and what was said.

Carey

 

[California]

The issue behind that dealer attitude is Yanmar-USA lost a court case and stood liable for a death on a gray market Yanmar. The widow's attorney asserted that their link to the gray product was that they hadn't refused to support grays, were profiting from them, and they freely allowed their licensed Yanmar Parts dealers to sell to shops importing and supporting grays. (And that somebody with Deep Pockets had to be designated to support the widow).

So Yanmar-USA said 'never again' and issued stern warnings to their parts distributors and dealers that they would cancel their Yanmar Parts franchise if they ever sold parts for grays. There is one dealer I know of who did in fact lose his franchise to sell Yanmar-USA parts and I think he also got court orders that he couldn't call his grays 'Yanmar' in his advertising etc because that was unauthorized use of their trademark. (This is the legal reasoning behind the Ebay ban, also).

So it is not surprising that some Deere dealers are afraid to sell parts to gray owners.

My local Deere dealer's service rep went nuts when I asked about servicing my legitimate Yanmar, a model they likely sold 30 years ago. Even though he advertised Yanmar Parts in the Yellow Pages, he was afraid to talk to me.

 

[drippingwithgold]

ACE Hardware had the blanks for my 1610D, like 1.50 each.

 

[Bennet.man]

Dripping, that is awesome! I will have to check them out.
1Danny, the one on the far left of the picture looks just like what I have.

Thanks guys!