Buying Advice Plastic

[the fat kid]

Is it just or does there seem to be an awful lot of plastic on these new subs. The hood, fenders, and floorboard guards are all plastic! Is this normal and if so does it matter?? I would think plastic would break and crack alot easier than metal also can repaint easier. This making sense to anyone??

 

[Chooglin]

There are a few out there, that do use metal (Mahindra,Massey Ferguson and Bobcat) to name a few.

 

[Bird]

Is it just or does there seem to be an awful lot of plastic on these new subs. The hood, fenders, and floorboard guards are all plastic! Is this normal and if so does it matter?? I would think plastic would break and crack alot easier than metal also can repaint easier. This making sense to anyone??

I can certainly understand your concern. I remember when they first started using plastic and vinyl on the dashboards of cars instead of all metal. We just knew that wasn't going to last. And the first time I heard that our Plymouth police sedans had plastic pistons in the brake calipers, I could hardly believe it.

So is it normal, will it last, does it matter? I don't know, but obviously there are lots of different kinds of "plastic" so I guess if they use the right kind, we'll be OK.

 

[TripleR]

I don't care for plastic on tractors, but that's probably because I am just old and stuck in my ways. I was disappointed with all the plastic on our 2305, but to date we haven't had issues and if plastic was a problem these forums would be full of complaints.

Oh, I use to say I would NEVER own a PLASTIC GUN; guess how many Glock pistols I have?

 

[k0ua]

I don't care for plastic on tractors, but that's probably because I am just old and stuck in my ways. I was disappointed with all the plastic on our 2305, but to date we haven't had issues and if plastic was a problem these forums would be full of complaints.

Oh, I use to say I would NEVER own a PLASTIC GUN; guess how many Glock pistols I have?

Check this out TripleR:

Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com

James K0UA

 

[jenkinsph]

Is it just or does there seem to be an awful lot of plastic on these new subs. The hood, fenders, and floorboard guards are all plastic! Is this normal and if so does it matter?? I would think plastic would break and crack alot easier than metal also can repaint easier. This making sense to anyone??

I don't have any concerns about the plastic as it seems to hold up very well. I should also add that it isn't a cheaper product than the sheetmetal either. When used for cowlings the plastic does reduce noise better than the sheetmetal. I don't see much difference in painting either plastic or metal, just some slight changes to preparing the surfaces.

 

[Bird]

Oh, I use to say I would NEVER own a PLASTIC GUN; guess how many Glock pistols I have?

Yep, and I have one of those plastic Sig Sauers.:laughing: And I always said if it were up to me, I'd never allow a police officer to carry one of those trotline weights; AKA semi-automatic pistols. And now they're not even heavy enough to make a decent trotline weight. I still don't trust semi-autos if my life might depend on it, but I've never had this Sig malfunction so far.

And the first IR2131 impact wrench I got in for repair, I couldn't believe Ingersoll-Rand would make a plastic impact wrench.:laughing: Of course they don't actually call it "plastic" they call it a "composite".

 

[TripleR]

Check this out TripleR:

Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com

James K0UA

Man, that hurt to read, I have been downright gentle on mine.

Yep, and I have one of those plastic Sig Sauers.:laughing: And I always said if it were up to me, I'd never allow a police officer to carry one of those trotline weights; AKA semi-automatic pistols. And now they're not even heavy enough to make a decent trotline weight. I still don't trust semi-autos if my life might depend on it, but I've never had this Sig malfunction so far.

And the first IR2131 impact wrench I got in for repair, I couldn't believe Ingersoll-Rand would make a plastic impact wrench.:laughing: Of course they don't actually call it "plastic" they call it a "composite".

My son in law just bought a "plastic" Sig 250, but I haven't shot it yet. My Sigs are the "classics" 220, 228 and 229. Before I said I would never own a plastic gun, I said I would never own one with an aluminum frame.

I use to not trust semi autos for good cause until Beretta, Sig, Glock etc. came along and became a convert. The last few years I worked my duty weapons were a Glock 23 and Glock 27; very dependable. Now I am retired, I still have several Glocks around, but usually drop an aluminum framed S&W 638 in my pocket.

"Plastics" etc. have come a long way and while I still don't "like" them, I can live with them; I am beginning to suspect I am way out of step; not quite a curmudgeon, but borderline.

 

[k0ua]

Back about 89 or 90 I think it was, I was in a gun store at the counter looking to buy a new pistol for the wife, and the sales counter guy offered a Glock 17, I made some smart*** comment about durability and another customer who happened to be a Police Officer, said "watch this" and unloaded his Glock 17, field stripped it, and threw the frame on the floor and stomped on it. He said "we aren't too worried about durability" I was a little take aback about the demo, but still did not buy a Glock then, did buy later tho.. Yep a Glock is a pretty tough pistol, "plastic" and all.

James K0UA

 

[the fat kid]

Good to know. Guess I never thought of it that way but my TIKA 30-06 does have alot of "composites" on it. makes sense thanks guys

 

[TripleR]

Good to know. Guess I never thought of it that way but my TIKA 30-06 does have alot of "composites" on it. makes sense thanks guys

That Tika is a nice gun. I was watching the History Channel, one of my favorite channels and they did a "Top Ten" on submachine guns and there was a lot of composites, so like you say they must be pretty durable.

Our Case had a lot of fiberglass components that did not hold up well and would be interested to hear from those with experience long term on plastic components on their tractors.

 

[megotatractor]

Is it just or does there seem to be an awful lot of plastic on these new subs. The hood, fenders, and floorboard guards are all plastic! Is this normal and if so does it matter?? I would think plastic would break and crack alot easier than metal also can repaint easier. This making sense to anyone??

Well, plastic doesn't dent. If the 2210 had a plastic hood instead of steel I would have a dent free hood.
What concerned me about my 2210 was after I got it home and discovered the hydrostat case was aluminum!!!!!

 

[clarityconnect]

Just remember fellows, plastic (composite) don't rust. Also plastic will spring back to original shape when hit with a small impact force where metal will usually have a small indent in it.

 

[oldyellr]

The trouble with plastic parts is when they are first introduced or the material changed to save cost. They have no way of knowing what 20 years of abuse and the effects of weather will be. The fact that there are some plastic parts out there that don't fail is the result of years of R&D or just dumb luck.