Please tell me this is not the way oil filters are made...

[HAR]

After rewatching the video, and the OSHA issues aside, the guy who is cutting the pleated filter paper is just guessing lengths !!!! At least an automated cutter would/should give proper paper lengths.

I do know that I purchased some 'brake parts' from Amazon which were supposedly 'replacement parts'. Yet when I went to install, it was impossible as the parts were clearly guesstimates when they were drawn/cut/shaped/formed. All oversized and none fit the calipers. I had to return and specify USA made to get the job done.

 

[boatmoter]

What? This can't be so, can it? I recently saw a tractor filter made in India or maybe Pakistan.

It says car filters but a lot of guys shop for crossover deals for tractors and the cheapest price so who knows what you get?

I buy only name brand filters,I search on Google for the # filter I need then surf for price. find the right price then buy a case of them. it's usually AC Delco I use

 

[Gord Baker]

Most of us Motorheads avoid Fram. A guy on You Tube does post mortem on them and many other things.

 

[Stumppuller]

All of this gives me a chuckle as it reminds me of how my dad swore by an oil filter that used replaceable “ cartridges” , which were toilet paper rolls! Haven’t seen them offered lately, wonder why.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Most of us Motorheads avoid Fram. A guy on You Tube does post mortem on them and many other things.

I still remember when Cummins lost a couple "B" diesels, both were traced back to the fram filters on them.

Cummins sent out notices, using fram oil filters would void the warr...

SR

 

[Sawyer Rob]

All of this gives me a chuckle as it reminds me of how my dad swore by an oil filter that used replaceable “ cartridges” , which were toilet paper rolls! Haven’t seen them offered lately, wonder why.

I remember those too, but many things in engines have changed since those days...

SR

 

[ovrszd]

I remember those too, but many things in engines have changed since those days...

SR

I attribute that change to simplicity. So much easier and faster to change a self contained filter than the old "cartridge" type as mentioned above.

 

[Calgaryglenn]

What? This can't be so, can it? I recently saw a tractor filter made in India or maybe Pakistan.

It says car filters but a lot of guys shop for crossover deals for tractors and the cheapest price so who knows what you get?I

 

[Alan46]

“Love the safety glasses & the hearing protection”

 

[sunandsand]

Two datapoints - Fram was a US company, it is now owned by a company in Australia. I don't know if the product is the same, but I do know someone who had a lucrative advertising contract which went away after the Australian purchase. (Not "a friend of a friend told me", I know the guy personally.)

Many models of MB use a felt filter element, not a cartridge like most cars. Comes off the top of the engine, there's a "spine" with several O rings, the felt element slides off and the new one slides on (after cleaning the spine and replacing the O rings). Kind of a messy job, but then if you've priced a replacement MB engine lately, well, hand cleaner is a whole lot cheaper, even a whole 55 gallon drum is lots cheaper. Or several drums. (AMG V-8 in an R109 retails at $63,000 for JUST the replacement engine.)

Best Regards,

Mike/Florida

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Fram went to Mexico for a time, may still be there? That was when I REALLY started hearing about problems with them and I already was hearing about them enough to stop using them.

SR

 

[Gord Baker]

I remember those too, but many things in engines have changed since those days...

SR

Yup. 50's 60's

 

[ljjhouser]

That is where I get my favorite .89 filter for my favorite car- tractor. Guaranteed for as long as your machine will run. Will never clog and prevent flow - uses new technology - oil soluble filter paper - no clogs. Probably the reason I started using Royal Purple filters and Racor filters.

 

[LouNY]

One) in the video the filter is labeled as a FUEL Filter.

Two) the canisters with the toilet paper rolls were a bypass filter which just filtered a slip stream of the oil,
And they are still available.

 

[BryceSteiner]

All of this gives me a chuckle as it reminds me of how my dad swore by an oil filter that used replaceable “ cartridges” , which were toilet paper rolls! Haven’t seen them offered lately, wonder why.

My dodge grand caravan uses a replaceable cartridge. I actually like how it works instead of throwing away the whole "housing" everytime you just replace the paper cartridge.

 

[Gopher Baroque]

All of this gives me a chuckle as it reminds me of how my dad swore by an oil filter that used replaceable “ cartridges” , which were toilet paper rolls! Haven’t seen them offered lately, wonder why.

Franz is still around, using in-house filter element because toilet paper changed to soft stuff that turns to mush. Way back, you could find stouter toilet paper, basically, the cheap stuff.
I ran one of these bypass filters in the old days and it did a fine job of catching stuff, judging by the layer of particles on the top when changing elements. Beyond that, there was four inches of filter to catch more!

A comment on filters in general: Years ago I read an article about the rate of "dirtiness" for crankcase oil, with measurment taken with engine that had no filter. The conclusion was that it would reach harmful levels about three thousand miles, about the recommended change interval at the time.
I was not ready to dismiss oil filters based on that, but did conclude that any non-junk filter would be fine, no need to worry about the "bestest" brand.

 

[priberc]

Free market 101 Buy [manufacture] low sell high

 

[avtar412]

Yes, we’ve lost our way when it comes to Heath and Safety…..

 

[Zmann.]

All of this gives me a chuckle as it reminds me of how my dad swore by an oil filter that used replaceable “ cartridges” , which were toilet paper rolls! Haven’t seen them offered lately, wonder why.

they are still around mostly as a bypass filter now I would not " poo poo" them ;-)
they seem pretty effective

 

[jiggseob]

Gord Baker above... "These are NOT Fuel Filters unless Mazda has a Diesel"... Yes, Mazda has not "A" diesel, but many diesels up and down their product line from sub-compact cars through the larger SUVs. Everywhere else in the world except US/Canada lots of small (by our standard) vehicles are diesel. On a recent trip to Vietnam, hired a guy to haul two of us and our small motorcycles a couple hundred miles, the guy had a Chevy Colorado with 3k miles on it, 2.0 litre 4 cyl "duramax" diesel and 6spd manual transmission. He claimed it gets 5.3 litres per 100km ~ 40 mpg. Does not use DEF.