Plugging in generator to your house dangerous?

   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #11  
Something like this, usually in a weatherproof enclosure;
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   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #12  
As I recall, it's been over a decade, in your lower picture showing the plug, the top one is your ground (green wire), the bottom one is your neutral (white), and the right and left side are your line 1 and line 2 (black and red wire).

Hope this helps, maybe the sparkys can help you out with a post.

KC

Edit: I alslo found out that it's less expensive to purchase a new generator cord then to purchase the new female plug end for the cord.
 
   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #14  
Just plug it up before you crank the generator. Turn off house main first. No power, no drain, no pull on generator. So it won't be cranking under a load. I don't understand what the problem is. Several plug it in the dryer plug to hot the house.

I am totally unaware of a SAFE way to connect a generator to a house without a transfer switch in the house.

Back feeding, such connecting the generator output to an outlet in the house, provides no interlock to prevent a disaster, such as killing someone.
 
   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #15  
As I see it, the reality is where power has gone out on a cold windy dark night. After an hour or so, you decide to hook up the generator to get the heat on. Then, in the cold, dark night, your flashlight is only at half power, you are in your bare feet, the garage door opener is out, too, so you need to find the rope, back a vehicle out, drag the generator outside, and try to hook it up. Sure, the generator may run, but the breakers blow. You've forgotten all the safe steps done in the order that you practiced on a nice warm sunny afternoon.
Now is the time when troubles, mistakes and carelessness start to add up. Pull Main, throw transfer, male/male cord, gasoline spilled, sparks from shorted wires, mis-neutraled cord, not enough devices turned off or unplugged, while backing out of the garage, you didn't quite get the truck into park, I've read about most of these, but I can see this being all eventful, even with a written checklist. Oh, and the battery is dead on the generator, so pull start if can remember how to get the panel open to access the pull handle. No screw drivers around. !!! Not a dime in my pajamas. Where is that pesky fire extinguisher. What do you mean the kids were launching tennis balls for the dog with it ???
 
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As I see it, the reality is where power has gone out on a cold windy dark night. After an hour or so, you decide to hook up the generator to get the heat on. Then, in the cold, dark night, your flashlight is only at half power, you are in your bare feet, the garage door opener is out, too, so you need to find the rope, back a vehicle out, drag the generator outside, and try to hook it up. Sure, the generator may run, but the breakers blow. You've forgotten all the safe steps done in the order that you practiced on a nice warm sunny afternoon.
Now is the time when troubles, mistakes and carelessness start to add up. Pull Main, throw transfer, male/male cord, gasoline spilled, sparks from shorted wires, mis-neutraled cord, not enough devices turned off or unplugged, while backing out of the garage, you didn't quite get the truck into park, I've read about most of these, but I can see this being all eventful, even with a written checklist. Oh, and the battery is dead on the generator, so pull start if can remember how to get the panel open to access the pull handle. No screw drivers around. !!! Not a dime in my pajamas. Where is that pesky fire extinguisher. What do you mean the kids were launching tennis balls for the dog with it ???
Luckily my plug is inside my garage. I will die a painless death from carbon monoxide.
 
   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #17  
I finally needed my generator last month… it’s only been 19 years since I built here. I had yanked the pull cord out of my Coleman about 5 years ago trying to start it and haven’t gotten back to fix it; the only time I ever started it was to make sure that it ran. I started the Lincoln WeldanPower which was my father’s… it turns out that just has (2) 110 outlets and the same number of 20 amp 220 outlets. Also fuel delivery problems… I had run the cord to my first freezer and was getting that cooled down when the power came back on … 👍

I have a transfer switch and everything to make a cord. Next summer I probably ai pick up a PTO driven genny… no sense having yet another engine to keep running “in case I need it”.
 
   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #18  
I am totally unaware of a SAFE way to connect a generator to a house without a transfer switch in the house.

Back feeding, such connecting the generator output to an outlet in the house, provides no interlock to prevent a disaster, such as killing someone.
If your main is off, you can't backfeed the power company. So if your main is off and you plug everything up before you start generator, no danger anywhere.
 
   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #19  
If your main is off, you can't backfeed the power company. So if your main is off and you plug everything up before you start generator, no danger anywhere.
I mean I've hooked up Megawatt generators this way. Just have discipline. Rack out the breakers when needed. Hang grounds 600v and above. So on and so forth.

But the average home owner is lucky to be able to know not to run a generator in a garage with the door shut
 
   / Plugging in generator to your house dangerous? #20  
If your main is off, you can't backfeed the power company. So if your main is off and you plug everything up before you start generator, no danger anywhere.
That's the way I do it. I would like to put in a transfer switch but don't have the room.
 

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