Pole barn versus Floating slab

[BuilderML]

To the Original OP of this thread : Why did You use t-111 smartside versus using Hardipanel cement siding panels ?

At lowes currently , the Hardi product is only $4 more per panel and although the smartside is resistant to somethings , one thing it is not resistant to around here is Acorn Woodpeckers . Neighbors found that out the hard way on their pole / horse barn and another outbuilding they have . Everything I build now is covered with hardi panel . No insect damage and No flippin woodpecker holes either :thumbsup:
Just curious the choice .

Fred H.

This is the little A-hole :

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We never did end up using the t111 smartside. We matched the house and ended up using Hardi plank siding. Also we used cdx and not OSB.

 

[EddieWalker]

We never did end up using the t111 smartside. We matched the house and ended up using Hardi plank siding. Also we used cdx and not OSB.

Why plywood instead of OSB? Did you nail you Hardie to the studs or both the studs and the plywood?

 

[BuilderML]

Why plywood instead of OSB? Did you nail you Hardie to the studs or both the studs and the plywood?

Reason for plywood on roof primarily is because I feel that a roofing nail holds better in cdx versus OSB. It's none scientific but next time take a roofing nail and place thru OSB and cdx. When you try to remove the nail it seems like the cdx has better grip on the nail versus the OSB. OSB seems to let it slide right out with little resistance. We did mark out the studs and nailed the Hardi thru the plywood and into the studs. We used 2" ring S.S. nails. Only place you really can't nail into studs is on the corners of the building when you do wide corner boards or wide trim around the windows. The trim ends up covering the studs.

 

[EddieWalker]

Thanks. I've never noticed one holding better then the other, but I've damaged enough OSB to know that it can be brittle at times. Now I prefer to use Zip System, which I find to be a much better grade of OSB. It's denser, more solid, and comes in a variety of lengths.

 

[s219]

Reason for plywood on roof primarily is because I feel that a roofing nail holds better in cdx versus OSB. It's none scientific but next time take a roofing nail and place thru OSB and cdx. When you try to remove the nail it seems like the cdx has better grip on the nail versus the OSB. OSB seems to let it slide right out with little resistance. We did mark out the studs and nailed the Hardi thru the plywood and into the studs. We used 2" ring S.S. nails. Only place you really can't nail into studs is on the corners of the building when you do wide corner boards or wide trim around the windows. The trim ends up covering the studs.

I have been told that OSB is better for roofing because it holds nails better, and because if you ever re-roof, it can handle another round of new nails much better than plywood. I have never really been able to verify that -- all the roofs I put on (some plywood, some OSB) are still in good shape with their original shingles on. But it makes me wonder, as generally I have always preferred plywood. Last roof I did on my barn lean-to was OSB mainly because I could get 9' sheets which worked out better for my needs (roof was 18' wide).

 

[BuilderML]

I have been told that OSB is better for roofing because it holds nails better, and because if you ever re-roof, it can handle another round of new nails much better than plywood. I have never really been able to verify that -- all the roofs I put on (some plywood, some OSB) are still in good shape with their original shingles on. But it makes me wonder, as generally I have always preferred plywood. Last roof I did on my barn lean-to was OSB mainly because I could get 9' sheets which worked out better for my needs (roof was 18' wide).

It comes down to a matter of preference also. I will say this, just another non scientific result having installed vinyl siding often enough and having removed siding also in both OSB and plywood. It just seems to me that OSB nails pull out much easier. Also for sure plywood is much more resilient to water or humidity compared to OSB.