Pole Barn with no permit

[Mark_in_IN]

my permit for my barn cost $25 to the health department for a septic permit, which is about 300 foot from the building site and not effected, and $100 for a erosion permit, to make sure i dont get eroison in the dry ditch, and then finally $150 for the actual permit to build.

the inspector came for the hole inspection got out of his truck, walked back to the holes looked in a couple and then BS with us for a few minutes, whole process took 5 minutes.

I think permits are a great thing when building a house but a pole barn, $275 bucks to have a guy look in the hole.

Mark

 

[scgargoyle]

A permit to put up a fence? Dang.. I'll -NEVER- live in that state... how long have they been under communist rule? As long as kaliphornia?

soundguy

You must live out in the country. Here in the Tampa/St Pete area, you have to have a permit to do anything. When we moved here, I got a permit and started putting up a fence. In less than 1/2 hour, the inspector 'happened' to come by, stopped in front of our house, saw the permit, and left. Now- we live in a cul-de-sac with no through traffic. Talk about Gladys Kravitz! Someone must have called when I hammered the first nail. We're moving to rural SC in a couple years, and you don't need a permit for an ag barn. They do permit/inspect everything else, though.

 

[300UGUY]

Because the number of outlets is limited by #of amps of the electrical service to your structure. I would assume a 50 amp service?

 

[Soundguy]

We live in a slightly rural area.. still lots of ag zoned land out here.

no permit needed for a barn as long as it has no power or water. no permits for ag related small structures like metal fram car ports or shade structures for animals.. no permits for fencing.. only permit needed for an ag well is from water management district, and power, if you don't already have it.. Many sink ag wells and just use genny power.. to get around having to pull any 'county' permits... as the water district permit for an ag well is a piece of cake... cheap, 1 page, and is a 'will-issue'

soundguy

You must live out in the country. Here in the Tampa/St Pete area, you have to have a permit to do anything. When we moved here, I got a permit and started putting up a fence. In less than 1/2 hour, the inspector 'happened' to come by, stopped in front of our house, saw the permit, and left. Now- we live in a cul-de-sac with no through traffic. Talk about Gladys Kravitz! Someone must have called when I hammered the first nail. We're moving to rural SC in a couple years, and you don't need a permit for an ag barn. They do permit/inspect everything else, though.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Required to pull a permit here for anything (A) over 2000 square ft, (B) with a permenant foundation (as opposed to on skids) (C) with electrical service, (D) with sewer hook-up, (E) used in a commercial application. We're VERY rural, and Kentucky is very liberal with building codes, inspections, ect. Still, BIG BROTHER wants his cut.

 

[LBrown59]

Down here, we have what are called 'right of way's'.. Those setbacks IE.. from the road to where you can build on your property is a ROW... I thought it was common knowledge that you couldn't build in a ROW without specific permission?
soundguy

I don't know just what the deal is here on right of way's except the state requires a permit to install a culvert on their right away.
As far as mowing the right away and maintaining it I'm not sure what I'm allowed to do.
Same way with right away ditches.

Another interesting thought:
The phone Co. has an under ground wire that goes from a pole on the other side of the Road to a pole in my front yard that's about 50 to 75 feet from the road.
A couple years ago I put 110 feet of 15'' culvert in the road ditch.
This culvert is right on top of the phone line where the wire goes across the ditch.
Don't know what will happen if the phone company ever decides to replace the phone wire????

 

[LBrown59]

The problem comes in when you have people who say "
1*I pay tax to the middle of the road so I own it".
2* There are always people around here who try to keep the plows and towns from leaving the paved section of the road.
3*They feel they own the shoulder and will put a fence out to it and complain when the snow plow removes it for them
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1* Technically this is true.
2*There is no reason for them getting off the pavement simply because of it being a right of way.
There is no reason for the driving public to drive or park on it either.
It's a right away not a freeway or public parking lot.
3*I've done this a couple of times temporarily along my front yard to protect my investment and efforts.
As far as I can ascertain I'm under no obligation to provide the public with a pullover place driving lane or parking spot between the edge of the pavement and the boundary of the right of way.

Right Away:
Right to use NOT ABUSE.

 

[LBrown59]

I've been in states where you didn't even need a permit to build a house etc.
I guess there are still some 'free' areas o f the country left.
Soundguy

Washington County ; Ohio is one of them.

 

[LBrown59]

Let me just say, if you have not been in an area requiring no permits/inspections, you have no idea what gets passed off by some, not all, of those schmuck "contractors". Oh, the horrors!!

On the other hand Codes can & sometimes do hinder use / introduction of superior advanced materials and construction methods.

 

[Inspector507]

If you think building codes and/or inspectors are any sort of guarantee against substandard materials or procedures, you are mistaken. I have been directly and indirectly involved in home and pole barn building for close to thirty years, and codes/inspectors do not assure that codes are always met. Not even close. In my experience, in the areas I have been, way too many of those jobs are political.

And some of them take their job very seriously in protecting the safety, health and welfare of the public. We are bound by law to do that. My state certification as an inspector and my job is at stake if I don't. Then there's the personal liability issue if misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance can be proved.
I know you said this is your experience in your area, but not all jurisdictions are that way. In my area we care about what we do. And I think we do it well.


BTW, a $450 permit will cost you $2700 if you get caught building without one around here. We take that very serious here too.