Pre-fab trusses for shed style shop?

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When we built our cabin we started putting the trusses up by hand using ladders and scaffolding. It was not hard per se but it was slow. Then a neighbor was able to get his old boom truck running and that made things super easy. Then the truck broke down again and sat there for weeks but I didn't care.

That old boom truck is now rotting in a field somewhere so this time I will have to come up with something else. I like the rig @buckeyefarmer showed but my tractor has a fixed bucket so not sure how I would put that together. Will have to get creative.
 
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Similar to Buckeye's post but I had to reach over an 8' porch to set 24' trusses at 10' up. The trusses were only about 150# so not that heavy, but awkward and pretty high up. It's a 20' H beam attached to a set of forks.

Another bonus is they only use KD #1 wood therefor much lighter.
That's not been my experience, I found a grade stamp on one of the web members stamped as grade #3. But, I'm ok with that since they are all engineered with load calculations for each member of the truss.
 
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I'd use light gauge steel trusses instead of wood. Stronger, lighter, fireproof, termite proof, about the only thing you can't do is hang a block and tackle on it to lift something, you will bend it (but of course you can also break a wooden truss that way).

Price of lumber has come down a little, and you no longer need a police escort to take the scraps to the dump (boy scouts will do nowadays), but steel is better and competitive anyway (YMMV).

Lots of fasteners for steel to wood, wood to steel, the biggest problem in building with steel is people are unfamiliar with it. Personally, I'll never go back to wood. (Wood is for hippies, steel is forever!)

Pix below is a 24 by 36 structure, scissors trusses. Don't know the price of just the trusses, it was part of a package of a panelized home. Went up FAST, too. The trusses have to be lifted from the TOP, lifting from the bottom bends the bottom chord. Lifting from the top also makes it much easier to set the trusses into position and fasten them to the top plate with LOTSA strong screws. 140 mph wind load rated.
 

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   / Pre-fab trusses for shed style shop? #16  
I am in the process of planning a shop for down on my property. I have no idea if this will become a reality as it is still early in the planning stage. What I want/need is a 30x40 3 bay shop.

I have had a site prep guy out and he says location is fine and won't need too much earth moving at all.

I will be milling my own lumber. I will be doing most of the work myself. It will be on a concrete slab (concrete contractor). It will be stick built. Probably on a low cinder block knee wall. 5v crimp metal roof. Looking for about 12' of height clearance inside.

When I built my log cabin kit 20 years ago it came with prefab wooden scissor trusses for a single peak roof. They were no problem to install.

However, I would prefer that my shop have a shed roof that slopes to the back (where drainage is best.) I would prefer to have a clear internal space with no posts/columns.

My question is this: Can pre-fab shed type trusses be purchased? Any guesses on cost? Is it feasible to make your own? Any ideas much appreciated.
Most lumber yards can farm out your truss desires to a truss company. These companies calculate snow loads for what you need.
When you use trusses, they go up relatively fast. They are accurate with the other ones so you get a nice roof if you set them accurately. Some issues include; No Attic Space... they are 2x4's so any idea of storing things in the rafters needs to be dismissed. Not mention the trussing deletes open attic space. Because trusses are 2x4's, the roof collapses very early on IF you have a fire. Many counties require a sign outside of structure showing the truss construction. The sign is for firefighters to not enter. Fight from outside. How do you plan on lifting?
 
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Something I don't hear anyone mentioning is the elimination of bird roosting places unless you want bird droppings on every thing.
Trusses and C channels are open invitations for them.
 
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If you are able to mill your own structural lumber and are asking about DIY trusses, one then guesses there are no building codes or enforcement of same in your area. Here in BC, to use self-milled lumber for structure, you need it graded, or an engineer needs to stamp the plans, and carry the liability, which usually means the lumber will be triple-sized.

In any case, as many have noted, go pre-fab. Their engineer will design them, any building authority will approve them, and your ease and speed of assembly will increase dramatically. Properly designed, 30' span should be no problem at a reasonable cost. It's an unfortunate time in human history to be requiring building materials of almost any sort. I've delayed building anything until we see an easing of these tight-market prices.

But unless you have no restrictions from a local authority, and can feel confident you are designed for the local snow load and all attachments can withstand wind loading, you'd be better off paying for pre-fab, in my opinion. Building is a lot of work, a lot of cost, and to have something fail down the road is not worth the additional up-front cost.
 
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The 25 yr old 2x6 King trusses on my pole barn were sagging and carpenter bee infested. Replaced with built in place CFS Howe truss. I would have preferred a bar joist truss, but that required removing and replacing the entire roof. These should last the remainder of my lifetime. I am in TN, so no appreciable snow load, we occassionally get ice, though. Jacked the ridge beam up about 3" and inserted truss members. Welding next to the hay bales was interesting.
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You need to consider what you'd like for overhangs before you order them. They'll probably just extend the top chord out to your desired (soffit) dimension but this will be much easier than you building them up in the air.
I'm a firm believer in a healthy overhang to "move" rainwater out away from the walls and foundation-slab. 16" is nice and greatly contributes to the design and appearance as well.
Also keep in mind that the "tall side" will be 5' (@ 2/12 pitch) higher than the wall with a mono pitch truss. That might not be what you've envisioned.
While it's a simple building, do yourself a favor, go to Staples and buy as big a they have pad of 1/4" squares graph paper. Sketch it out using a 1/4" scale. That's would be each block on the pad would equal a foot. It's very easy to make it any scale that you want, just make each square equal to whatever you like for more or less detail.
Doing this will reveal some things that you didn't consider previously and will be a huge help overall including estimating your materials.
 
 
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