Generator PTO Generator?

[JohnDeere4300]

Why not? I did?

it came truck delivery on a pallet. I unloaded it with my tractor using a carryall to lift the pallet off the drop deck on the truck.. I put a couple lag screws thru the pallet intot he carry-all and then, and connected my pto shaft to it.. 10 seconds later I was making power.???? just grap the extension cords and go.
it's obvious you don't like pto gensets and was not happy with your experience with them has a tractor he's not afraid to use, and wants a low-ball dollar per KW cost.

soundguy

*Glad you know how to unload one from a truck and already had a cheap extension cord on hand.

*No i don't like the PTO generators, i like the whizzbangs.

*I have a tractor that I"m not afraid to use, i just use it for the right purpose, like digging, hauling dirt, plowing, pulling logs and etc..etc. etc.

*And yes i want a low-ball dollar generator, i have 2 whizzbangs right now, may buy a couple more next week.

* When i bought my PTO generator i didn't have a heavy duty extension cord, place to plug it in and the 2 plugs. so i had to buy those extras to get power, because they sure don't run wireless.
And if i needed the PTO whizzjunk generator, i had to take off my backhoe, it stays on all the time unless i need to plow or use the bush hog.

Here is a list of different whizzbang motors that i have to keep up with, and they all start every time i need them.

2- whizzbang generators
2- John Deere riding mowers
1- rear tine tiller
1- push mower
1- weed eater
2- chainsaws
1- 26-ton log splitter
1- pressure washer
1- leaf blower

I would say that 99.9% of members on here have some kind of small motor.

(I also find it hard to believe that you don't have some sort of whizzbang small motor.)

(I still haven't seen the pictures of your PTO generator.)

 

[skent]

I have a PTO Gen (10KW), a 6000 W Coleman and a 3500 W Dayton. The B&S (or Kohler) air cooled gas engines will not give the service life of a water cooled multi cylinder diesel tractor. When we've lost power for > a day at a time, I don't run my Kubota 24-7. Unless we want to run the heat/AC non stop. We usually run 4 hours on, 4 off. (figure that even ten days of this schedule is only 120 hours) The water stays hot, pressure tank full and freezers stay cool using this schedule. I've found the Kubota running the 10 KW uses much less fuel than the 12 HP 6000 W Coleman, regardless of the load. The diesel can keep the RPM's up and run a lean mixture when not under a big load where the gassers need to maintain a 14:1 air fuel ratio regardless of the load.
Don't get me wrong, both have their place in my shop, and there have been times during the shorter outages that I've used the Dayton, but having a farm and animals to water (using wells), I feel better having a PTO system.

 

[Soundguy]

Ditto that. i get tired of caring for cheaply made gas engine carbs that gum up if you don't run them every X months. I ditched a good weed eater and mower for those reasons.. too much time lost to dinking with sticky float needles.. fuel 'saver's didn't seem to help much.. especialy on B&S carbs. After my 3 yr warranty on my crapsman mower ran out and I stopped getting free carbs every year.... I sold the mower..

soundguy

Well, I have the North Star 13 kw. I'm the world's worst when it comes to firing up all my gas powered gizmos. I got the pto genny because I wanted to know it would work when I needed it. Too many times, I've gone to use a weed eater or a chainsaw, only to spend hours getting it running again. Sometimes, after a bad hurricane, the parts store isn't open for days.
On the other hand, I do manage to take good care of the tractor. And I use it pretty regularly. And it is reliable.
I used the pto genny and the tractor for over two weeks after Katrina. I didn't run it 24/7. We didn't know when we would be able to buy more diesel. So, we only ran the tractor for about 3 hours every morning and about 5 hours every evening. We have a well, (not city water), so without electricity, we don't have water. I've got the genny mounted on a 3ph stand, so it only takes a minute to uncouple. I was able to use the tractor during the day without any problems.

 

[Soundguy]

See.. you keep leaving out pertinant info.

if you have a 'all the time' mounted backhoe.. IMHO.. buying a pto gen was not a great choice for you in the first place... thus buying it and then complaining about it seems kinda pointless.. be kinda like me buying a natural gas powered generator and living in an area that had no nat gas service.. it's a bad fit.

had you stated al this upfront.. I'm sure there would have been less discussion. that setup simply didn't meet your needs.. no harm no foul.

soundguy

*Glad you know how to unload one from a truck and already had a cheap extension cord on hand.

*No i don't like the PTO generators, i like the whizzbangs.

*I have a tractor that I"m not afraid to use, i just use it for the right purpose, like digging, hauling dirt, plowing, pulling logs and etc..etc. etc.

*And yes i want a low-ball dollar generator, i have 2 whizzbangs right now, may buy a couple more next week.

* When i bought my PTO generator i didn't have a heavy duty extension cord, place to plug it in and the 2 plugs. so i had to buy those extras to get power, because they sure don't run wireless.
And if i needed the PTO whizzjunk generator, i had to take off my backhoe, it stays on all the time unless i need to plow or use the bush hog.

Here is a list of different whizzbang motors that i have to keep up with, and they all start every time i need them.

2- whizzbang generators
2- John Deere riding mowers
1- rear tine tiller
1- push mower
1- weed eater
2- chainsaws
1- 26-ton log splitter
1- pressure washer
1- leaf blower

I would say that 99.9% of members on here have some kind of small motor.

(I also find it hard to believe that you don't have some sort of whizzbang small motor.)

(I still haven't seen the pictures of your PTO generator.)

 

[Soundguy]

Yep.. similar run situations.

when we lost power during the florida hurricanes a few years back.. I only rant he tractor an hour every 3 hours... that pumped water.. heated water.. and cooled the refers.

no need for lamps.. and the only tv service up at that time was 'air' .. thus didn't need tv's... all utils were down.. cable, electric, phone.. etc.... heck.. during 04.. even cell phone service was spoty in my area.

at night, I'd runt he tractor 2 hours right before lights out and that kept the refers till am. I had a 12v bat and jumper pack and a few inverters for incedental 120v power that needed 500w or less.

soundguy

I have a PTO Gen (10KW), a 6000 W Coleman and a 3500 W Dayton. The B&S (or Kohler) air cooled gas engines will not give the service life of a water cooled multi cylinder diesel tractor. When we've lost power for > a day at a time, I don't run my Kubota 24-7. Unless we want to run the heat/AC non stop. We usually run 4 hours on, 4 off. (figure that even ten days of this schedule is only 120 hours) The water stays hot, pressure tank full and freezers stay cool using this schedule. I've found the Kubota running the 10 KW uses much less fuel than the 12 HP 6000 W Coleman, regardless of the load. The diesel can keep the RPM's up and run a lean mixture when not under a big load where the gassers need to maintain a 14:1 air fuel ratio regardless of the load.
Don't get me wrong, both have their place in my shop, and there have been times during the shorter outages that I've used the Dayton, but having a farm and animals to water (using wells), I feel better having a PTO system.

 

[Dargo]

Ditto that. i get tired of caring for cheaply made gas engine carbs that gum up if you don't run them every X months. I ditched a good weed eater and mower for those reasons.. too much time lost to dinking with sticky float needles.. fuel 'saver's didn't seem to help much.. especialy on B&S carbs. After my 3 yr warranty on my crapsman mower ran out and I stopped getting free carbs every year.... I sold the mower..

soundguy

I guess it all depends on the engine and if you use Stabil. My Honda generator is about 5 years old and hadn't been used much at all until this ice storm. I only start it whenever I think about it...like every 4 or 5 months...and let it run for about 20 minutes. The same goes for my Yamaha generator. During this last ice storm I ran my Honda generator over 300 hours, basically non-stop, and I put almost 200 hours on my Yamaha running my office. I only shut them off to fuel them and to change the oil (takes about 3 minutes). Using a high quality PAO synthetic I only change the oil about every 150 hours in them. Both ran perfectly without a hitch.

I needed my tractor a lot during that ice storm. I personally would have been screwed with a PTO generator. I've been planning on getting a 30k or so automatic generator for my house but now I'm not sure. I may just get a manual transfer switch and go with my two gas powered generators. They go over 12 hours between fuel fill ups and performed great. Granted neither of my gas generators are cheapo models, but I'm not so sure I need anything else unless I feel the need to be able to run my A/C units when I'm off the grid. I did learn that, in my situation, I certainly don't want a PTO generator. Obviously your mileage may vary.

 

[Soundguy]

I guess it all depends on the engine and if you use Stabil.

I used stabil in the B/S lawnmower carb.. never helped... that float needle just liked to gum shut.. wasn't a bad carb to rebuild mind you.. actually took more tome to remove/reinstall it than to pop the bowl off, clean needle and readjust float/slap back together with new gasket.. I just got tired of having to do it every time I needed the mower! On the weedeater i used the mix-oil with fuel stabilizer in it.. again... that carb was a POS as well.. AND it was hard to get to to clean and rebuild... more like 30 minutes... as with the mower.. i got tired of rebuilding the carb to trim around the house..... might have beent he brands i was using? I switched later on to a toro weed eater that runs straight gas.. so far.. no problems in a year. And I swapped to a mower that uses a different carb.. etc.

I needed my tractor a lot during that ice storm. I personally would have been screwed with a PTO generator. ... Obviously your mileage may vary.

awe schucks.. that's just a sign you need a second tractor!

soundguy

 

[Tom_Veatch]

I don't know which, if any, post this will show as being in response to, and it really doesn't matter since I'm responding to the thread as a whole, not any specific post.

I own a PTO generator. I do not own a self contained engine powered generator, either diesel or gasoline. Why? Because that suits my needs. If it didn't, I would have bought a different type. OK, it puts hours on my tractor. But, it's my tractor. Putting hours on it was what I bought it for, and I'll put the hours on it that I need to, doing what I need my tractor to do.

My needs aren't the same as yours. Your's aren't the same as his. I don't think you're a particularly bad person if you choose a different solution than me. And I don't accept that I'm a particulary bad person because I chose a different solution than what you chose. Nor do I think I have to convince you that my decision was right and your decision was wrong in order to validate my decision.

If you have a self contained, and it meets your needs, enjoy it in good health. If you have a PTO generator and it meets your needs, enjoy it in good health.

I'm outa here!

 

[whistlepig]

I don't know which, if any, post this will show as being in response to, and it really doesn't matter since I'm responding to the thread as a whole, not any specific post.

I own a PTO generator. I do not own a self contained engine powered generator, either diesel or gasoline. Why? Because that suits my needs. If it didn't, I would have bought a different type. OK, it puts hours on my tractor. But, it's my tractor. Putting hours on it was what I bought it for, and I'll put the hours on it that I need to, doing what I need my tractor to do.

My needs aren't the same as yours. Your's aren't the same as his. I don't think you're a particularly bad person if you choose a different solution than me. And I don't accept that I'm a particulary bad person because I chose a different solution than what you chose. Nor do I think I have to convince you that my decision was right and your decision was wrong in order to validate my decision.

If you have a self contained, and it meets your needs, enjoy it in good health. If you have a PTO generator and it meets your needs, enjoy it in good health.

I'm outa here!

I agree with Tom. I don't think a portable is any better than a PTO generator
or the other way around. I think it depends more on how we have to set the generator up when the time comes. Ease of use so to speak. If it's nasty, dark, cold, and power is out that's hassle enough. If it's easier and quicker to set up a PTO generator and still keep you fur dry and warm so be it. If a portable does this better then that would be the better choice.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

and connected my pto shaft to it.. 10 seconds later I was making power.???? just grap the extension cords and go.

soundguy

Hmmm.

Still no pictures.