Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help...

   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help...
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#31  
Tom/WNY, Thanks for the info. At this point it looks like I'm ordering a tractor, and I did get three remotes for it, so hopefully I'll be OK once I've added a loader and possibly rear-mounted snow thrower. I also can add a fourth remote later, if need be. I'm a big believer in getting the most of everything you can because you never know what you're going to need (especially if you're as ignorant as I am about tractors - but I'm getting there).

gordon, I listened to your advice, and bought the largest tractor I could afford. However, it didn't leave me with any $$$ for the FEL. My wife and I figure we'll manually shovel the drive this year and then, in spring after our tax rebate, we'll look into getting the FEL. On the trees - there are only 2 that I'm worried about not making it in our Zone 5/6 climate here in Rochester, Coast Redwood and Giant Sequoia. The others should be able to make it. We've bought a couple of seedlings of both Coast Redwood and Giant Sequoia, which are container potted right now. We're going to keep them that way for another year or so and then plant them when they're larger. If they make it, we'll know enough to give it a shot. For us, this is a big experiment and we wanted to have some fun with it. Most of our investment will be in NY native trees, but we wanted to throw some fun ones in there as well, just to see. Thanks for the links. I've also been looking at:


http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dlf/privland/nursery/species.html

http://itascagreenhouse.com/page3.html

and, for seeds:
http://www.treeshrubseeds.com/
http://carterseeds.com/

Bird, Thanks, that's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure.

cowboydoc, Thanks again, I went with a good size utility tractor. I figure if we can't afford additonal machinery in the future, a bigger tractor can do most of the things the specialty equipment could. A Bobcat may be much better for spading trees, but a good size tractor can still do it.

Steve_Carver, your site has been very helpful in figuring out a lot of what's-what with the Kubotas. I think there's more information there than on kubota.com!

winejon, Kubota's site doesn't really list a WHOLE lot of the finer details of the machines. Also, I think that the hydro-shuttle was added to the M6800 recently, and I don't think they bothered to update the web site. This is a feature which, indeed, would have pushed me to the M6800.

HR_Mutt, awesome pics. Thanks a lot for them, it's nice to know that decent-size spades can be run off of these tractors. I have looked into caretree and they are a possibility once I've got the trees and the $$$ to get a spade. I am also looking into Optimal since they seem to make more compact spades, which still dig up the same size trees as the caretree spades. See http://www.optimaltreespades.com/optimal-advantage.html for details. The smaller spade would make maneuvering around trees in rows much easier, I think. At any rate, I'm too early in researching tree spades to know all the in/outs, but that's what I know so far!

All you guys, it's been real interesting seeing what you all thought about my situation and (I can't say it enough) thanks again for bearing with me on my long posts. I originally started by looking at Case, John Deere, Massey-Ferguson, New Holland and Kubota, but when I saw that Kubota was the only manufacturer with a cab on the compact-size tractors, I figured I'd see if I could manage with an L3710HSTC (since we definitely knew we wanted a cab). Of course, this "grew" to an M4700, which "grew" to an M6800. At this point I went back and looked at the other manufacturers as well, and wound up signing paperwork for a New Holland TN75S with cab last night. Please don't hate me because I went blue! The New Holland dealer here (Jennings Tractor) is amazing - by FAR the best of the dealers I went to, and the Kubota dealer (Saxby) didn't seem to take me very seriously, didn't even have an M6800 on the lot (although they told me they did when I called on the phone) and gave me the impression that the Kubotas were selling like hotcakes (maybe they are) and I felt like he'd be reluctant to deal with me very much (or in the least, it would be like pulling teeth - and I hate haggling). Carver offers a great option with his web site, but I prefer dealing with someone local and I didn't know how the Kubota from Carver would have shaped up with the options I wanted (price-wise and time-wise). New Holland also has 0.0%/3 years - 1.9%/4 years and 2.9%/5 years financing right now, which pushed me over the edge. Again, THANK YOU so much. Even though I didn't go Kubota, I hope you'll all be happy knowing that I got enough tractor for my purposes, and that you helped me make the decision (so I didn't wind up with too "little" tractor).

Mike Slavis
mike@slavis.com
 
   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #32  
Congratulations, Mike, I feel sure you'll be happy with that tractor, except for one little detail. Have you checked on the price of the FEL as part of the original purchase as compared with the price to add it later? You usually get a better deal if it's part of the original purchase. In my opinion a FEL is essential and with the financing options available, I would think you would be ahead of the game to get it originally. And of course, that's just my personal opinion.

Bird
 
   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #33  
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Mike,

New Holland TN75…Outstanding hydraulics, great PTO hp, turbo charged DI… more than what Kubota M6800 could ever offer you…

You made a fantastic choice….!

Congratulations Mike… your great grandkids will love ya for it… /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

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   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #34  
Mike,

I agree with Bird... I missed that part on you not getting the loader...

Getting it now, only adds a few more dollars on the payment, makes your dealer happy{probably even a better price now also}, and you and the Mrs. will be happier...

{Besides...it's kinda like ordering the brand new car without air conditioning and saying you'll come back for the retro-fit later...Sometimes... later never comes...}

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   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #35  
Mike,

Congrats! That will make a fine tractor for many years to come. Don't worry about going blue, you are still allowed to visit with us orange guys and gals. Glad to see you moved up to a tractor that will handle anything you want to do on your land.

MarkV
 
   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #36  
Mike
The pic John provided looks like a great rig/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif.What's the engine/pto hp? I wouldn't think you'll offend anybody by going <font color=blue>Blue</font color=blue>.You're the one paying for it/keeping us advised on how the projects go,etc(with pics!)
regards
Mutt
 
   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help...
  • Thread Starter
#37  
Bird and John Miller, III, This tractor is already over what we had designated as our budget, so adding the FEL from the get-go is probably not going to happen. Taking on $4,500 for the 33LA FEL, our monthly payments (if we go with the 3 year, 0.0% financing) will go up $125, which is pretty significant. I'm still hoping that come tax refund time, there will be enough to look into adding the FEL then. I'm not looking forward to manually shoveling snow this winter, but it's not gonna kill me (and I can still get this much tractor!). Also, my dealer, who's been nothing but straight with me, told me it will not save me money to get it now as he'll give me a great price either way. He also said that on the compact tractors, the New Holland "Boomers", there is a factory rebate applied if there are accessories purchased (like a FEL) with the tractor, but this doesn't apply to the larger TN tractors.

HR_Mutt, here are the relevant specs:

Engine: 3-cyl turbo diesel
74.8 Gross Engine HP
72 Net engine HP
62 PTO HP

Transmission: 16x16 synchronized transmission with electro-hydraulic powershuttle
Differential lock electrohydraulically engaged front and rear

Steering/Braking: Hydrostatic power steering with separate hydraulic pump
Hydraulic wet brakes (equalizing and self-adjusting)
SuperSteer FWD axle with automatic FWD management system

Hydraulics: Dual gear pumps
Implement pump: 16.9 gpm
Steering pump: 9.2 gpm

PTO: 11 inch cerametallic PTO clutch
Mechanical engagement

3-point lift: 2-lever control (position/draft)
3962 lbs. lift capacity
Cat II/I
Telescopic stabilizers
Flexible lower link ends
Lower link draft sensing

Gauges: Electronic instrument cluster with digital readouts

Electrical/lighting: 65 amp alternator
7-pin outlet for trailer lighting
4-pin 25 AMP power outler
Single pin 8 AMP accessory power outler (cigarette lighter)
2 Halogen fron headlights
2 halogen front corner worklights
2 Front cab roof worklights
2 Read cab roof worklights
Turn signals/flashers/brake lights

Inside: Heat and A/C
Isolation mounted platform
Locking doors
Tinted glass
Fully opening rear window
Fron and rear wipers/washers
Tilt/Telescoping steering wheel
Radio ready
Seat belts

I'm really excited about this, and just hope I can handle it in the beginning!

Mike Slavis
mike@slavis.com
 
   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #38  
Mike, I do understand about budget limitations./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif At any rate, that sounds like a fine machine.

Bird
 
   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #39  
Re: Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help..

Mike,
Thats a great tractor, and Jennings has a good following around here. My next door neighbor just got a TC33D from them about 2 months ago, had the samething to say about them and the other dealers as well.

And since you and I are so close to one an other, I will be glad to come and drive your tractor for you and show you how it looks moving around! Best of luck with your new toy!

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   / Purchase Grand L Ten or M Series? Need help... #40  
<font color=blue>...I'm not looking forward to manually shoveling snow this winter, but it's not gonna kill me (and I can still get this much tractor!). ...</font color=blue>

Mike, You sure did get a lot of tractor... that was a pleasant surprise!

Ok, get the loader come tax time... but how about a 3-pt rear blade for now, even used for snow plowing... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

{wider and quicker than a shovel...couple hundred $$.../w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif}

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