Jac65
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That's the problem with all video clips like this, no context.
Pushing A Tractor To It's Limits
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Toward the end of the video, when he's going away from the camera you can see the slope is clean, hard shaved ground. Cut to a specified degree slope. Then loose material was pushed off the top and down the slope. He's scattering that material to the lower part of the slope.
He couldn't have rode that slope if it was all loose material.
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It's not a bucket. It's a blade. He set it a few inches off the ground. Just low enough to scatter the loose debris ahead of him. Definitely had a purpose in mind.
As another poster stated, he accomplished the job his boss said to do. He did it with the equipment at hand. A talent that we have softened here in our country.
Well, as another poster pointed out, we don't know the context of the situation. I could be barking up the wrong tree like everyone here.
ding beep
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The operator in this video has way more (skills? seat time? fur on his peaches?) than me...but
l also push my little red tractor to it's limit nearly every time l turn the key.
l typically run the snow thrower as close to the ditch as possible, on a very steep driveway.
Bucket work with sand or gravel is the same: always going for full scoops.
Sometimes l dig too deep, and bog down or stall. l just exceeded the tractor's limits again...
Backhoe work is the same: some boulders you just have to dig around.
With tractor work, as with most things in this life: Good judgement comes from experience.
But sometimes, experience comes from bad judgement.
ding beep
l also push my little red tractor to it's limit nearly every time l turn the key.
l typically run the snow thrower as close to the ditch as possible, on a very steep driveway.
Bucket work with sand or gravel is the same: always going for full scoops.
Sometimes l dig too deep, and bog down or stall. l just exceeded the tractor's limits again...
Backhoe work is the same: some boulders you just have to dig around.
With tractor work, as with most things in this life: Good judgement comes from experience.
But sometimes, experience comes from bad judgement.
ding beep
Experienced old-timers used to do amazing, dangerous things with equipment less capable than a modern scut. If cell phones and internet existed back then the keyboard commando tractor/equipment police would have a field day IMHO. Go to a less regulated foreign country you will see some crazy stuff both hauling and using equipment.
Blue hood
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Now that Cahaba Valley Farm show the "crazy operator building a reservoir" video I have a question:
I need to build up a 1.75 acres square irrigation reservoir that should have 15' high sand walls all around, (meaning the wall cross section view it's a trapezoid), and I'm planning to use a [4x4, 40HP, 5K lbs. tractor] "or" a [80HP, 13K lbs. crawler tractor] pulling a 6K lbs. dump trailer.
I personally feel safer to use the crawler, crawling across the 25% to 30% walls to dump, (if it could pull that weight at that angle), instead of dumping alongside to form the walls using the 4x4 tractor.
The distance from the sand source to the planned reservoir is about 300 yards. (not use for a dozer)
I saw a youtube video of a slightly safer way doing the same thing with a 2WD, 20HP old tractor pulling a box blade that in my case could take forever to move 25K cubic yards.
Let me know what you think:
I need to build up a 1.75 acres square irrigation reservoir that should have 15' high sand walls all around, (meaning the wall cross section view it's a trapezoid), and I'm planning to use a [4x4, 40HP, 5K lbs. tractor] "or" a [80HP, 13K lbs. crawler tractor] pulling a 6K lbs. dump trailer.
I personally feel safer to use the crawler, crawling across the 25% to 30% walls to dump, (if it could pull that weight at that angle), instead of dumping alongside to form the walls using the 4x4 tractor.
The distance from the sand source to the planned reservoir is about 300 yards. (not use for a dozer)
I saw a youtube video of a slightly safer way doing the same thing with a 2WD, 20HP old tractor pulling a box blade that in my case could take forever to move 25K cubic yards.
Let me know what you think:
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Please start a thread about this project. Using the right title you'll get a LOT of useful information that won't find you here.
I have a lot of comments to offer based on the above information but I'll hold them for your thread. Come back here with a link to it after you get the thread set up.
I'll only offer here that sliding 25K cubic yards of dirt along on the ground is not going to be practical with the equipment you list.
Quite true. But we do have some cowboys who can really push the edge.
EONE
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Bill Guenthner
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This is why I will never buy a used tractor. Too many people try to use them as dozers or excavators. Maybe it's got "low hours" but if most of those hours were pulling tree stumps and exceeding the weight limits...
EONE
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I agree 100%....Some places and people have learned to use what they have....In this country "USA" equipment was pushed to it's limits in a great majority of cases...in farming, logging, construction, mining, etc,etc,etc.... in particular "in the old days"..If you truly have spent a long time around and operating equipment you will know this as fact...How do think the equipment got better, and more productive??....because the stuff was always being pushed. The man in the video is doing a job with a tractor..and very likey because that's what he or his employer has available or can afford to use. When you see all those supposed crazy videos of people loading equipment onto a tiny flat bed truck, or something that "we" would not do..does not mean they are stupid,... just resourceful....we like to laugh and criticize... but they get the most out of what they have...and many times people in those areas are better, more skilled and capable with less than "we" are in the USA. I learned a long time ago not to laugh. It can come right back on you. Pushing the limits....well here is just an example of very modern and massive wheel loaders doing very tough and dangerous work....But They sure are good at it by the way these are 100+ ton loaders working....
greggyy
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it is achieving little...
k0ua
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Many times, and they do stuff that will curl your hair. Of course their tractors are usually "squat" tractors. A lowered center of gravity. But still It is phenomenal what they do.
DieselBound
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Haven't watched the video but...
Unless one has been outside the confines of the comfy western world it's hard to grasp what life is like elsewhere. My wife is from the Philippines and I've seen stuff, there, that would gob-smack most: stuff that would cause a coronary in any OSHA official (not to say that having general rules of conduct for work is a bad thing- anything that keeps employer abuse down is good). For sure, there are idiots everywhere, but what might be seen as idiotic might not be the result of an idiot: many have an awareness that is very tuned to the moment such that there can be an appearance of the defiance of physics (often seen in entertainment circles).
Unless one has been outside the confines of the comfy western world it's hard to grasp what life is like elsewhere. My wife is from the Philippines and I've seen stuff, there, that would gob-smack most: stuff that would cause a coronary in any OSHA official (not to say that having general rules of conduct for work is a bad thing- anything that keeps employer abuse down is good). For sure, there are idiots everywhere, but what might be seen as idiotic might not be the result of an idiot: many have an awareness that is very tuned to the moment such that there can be an appearance of the defiance of physics (often seen in entertainment circles).
EONE
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...because they have learned to do it and fear does not factor into it. Just like an "extreme" anything...
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