Question about a grapple

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#171  
Bill way to go on the grapple! I'll look forward to your thread.

I have thought from time to time about a tree shear. However I have never used one and I can't grasp the concept of how you know there is a tree in the blasted thing if it's below your line of sight.

Ideally one mounted on a QA plate and powered by my front hydraulics might be a super project............................yeah I'm thinking here..........

Gotta do a snow plow first.
 
   / Question about a grapple #172  
<font color="blue"> Anybody have any ideas for a new project? </font>
How about a backhoe mounted grapple, to easy now ? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Question about a grapple #173  
PR,
I think the part of knowing where the tree is could be figured out easily enough, but the scary part is how do you control the direction it's going to fall. My cab would not look nice with a big old oak laying on top of it /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif.

Bill
 
   / Question about a grapple #174  
"The grapple really makes moving, stacking, and even holding trees for final cutting, kid's play. "

Very nice.. better then nice.. gotta love it! I want one too!

I think the one you built for your 17LA.. would fit just perfect on my 17LA. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Great job!!
 
   / Question about a grapple #175  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Kenny thanks! Can you see me smiling from ear to ear? It's really nice to have a project go as planned and it's also a big plus if it actually works too......)</font>
Well it really turned out great. That is a good feeling. Thanks for keeping us up to date on this great project. John
 
   / Question about a grapple #176  
Great job, Mike. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I'm glad you finally got to use your grapple and post some pictures. I was getting ready to ask you when you were gonna take that barn queen out and actually put it to work. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Seriously, I know your weather has been a limiting factor and I'm just looking for a way to rub it in. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I also know that there are a lot of things we think we need that in the end turn out to be more trouble than they are worth. That latching relay is a good example. In my hose routing, I thought I'd use a lot more 90° fittings, so I have a few "spares" in my inventory for now. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I definitely overspent on fittings, but I guess I'll be prepared for my next project.

What about the open/close speed? Do you have good control? Can you make the grapple go nice and slow using the joystick?
 
   / Question about a grapple #177  
PineRidge wrote: I did eliminate the latching solenoid that I originally installed on the joystick button. It was much too easy to forget if the circuit to the electric diverter valve was energized or bypassed.

I simply wired the joystick button to a 12 Volt DC relay with a set of NO contacts. Now when ever I hold the joystick button in I am controlling the grapple and when I release it I am controlling the curl function. It is much easier to operate the grapple in this manner.

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OK OK /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif my last tractor didn't have a fel ...the new one does and I am getting drool all over it reading the various TBN grapple discussions.
I had wired lights on the FOPS of old one ...and now I have lights on the new one. Wired somewhat differently due to the good thoughts here.

So before I went to order the selector valve from the SurplusCenter I was interested in trying to understand the wiring alittle better. Does the valve direct flow to one circuit in an unpowered state and the other in the powered state?

thanks for the thoughts
 
   / Question about a grapple #178  
<font color="blue"> Does the valve direct flow to one circuit in an unpowered state and the other in the powered state </font>
Yes, that is exactly what it does.
 
   / Question about a grapple #179  
Thanks much...Now I guess I will have to try to come up with a mounting/plumbing solution that is half as smooth as some of the others discussed /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I didn't feel bad tapping into my 20 year-old Longs hydraulics to add remote circuits but the thought of doing it to a new tractor is alittle more of a mental project....nice to hear others successful experiences.
thanks
 
   / Question about a grapple
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#180  
Jim yes Mother Nature finally decided to smile and send us Ohio folks some nice weather. I quickly put the grapple to work and I am thrilled with the results but I'm sure you already know that since you purchased a grapple almost identical in design to mine.

When I first used the grapple it was too fast on open/close to suit me so I purchased an inexpensive fixed orifice restrictor from where else but TSC. I think the thing set me back a whole 4 bucks and some change. Once I installed it the grapple became much more manageable and I can still slow it down further by feathering the joystick some. NEAT! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Speaking of joysticks once you get tired of using your rear remote to open/close your grapple we are going to make a convert out of you. The more you use your grapple the more you will miss not being able to keep your hand on the joystick to open/close it. Just think of it as a pay me now or pay me later thing. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yep, the latching solenoid sounded a lot better than it actually worked. I quickly found out that as I was sneaking up to a brush pile or tree that I had to look down at the LED to determine if the grapple circuit was energized, so there was a loss of productivity, it just wasn't smooth.

Once I removed the latching relay and the LED it all became much more automatic. When sneaking up on the tree and curling the bucket down it was just a matter of depressing the joystick button with my thumb and I immediately knew, even without looking, that at that point I had full control of the grapple. It was smooth and didn't require a visual from the light emitting diode either. And when my thumb released the small joystick button everything reverted back and I again had normal curl function. Sometimes simple is good!

Jim how's your grapple working out for you so far on the chase lounge rock bucket? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll just bet the combination of the rock bucket/grapple is saving you lots of time & effort. You have a winning combination there my friend.

SkogenMe the first time that you make a modification to your new tractor is probably the hardest. Then it gets much easier from that point forward until you turn into a junkie like me looking for one new project after another to build and add. There are more than a few of us gadget junkies here at the TBN site. We share ideas and pictures so that others can learn, improve on, and repost their projects.

It's all about members helping other members in my opinion.

EDIT: I had another TBN member contact me today regarding the part number of the electric diverting valve that we purchased from Surplus Center. I just couldn't put a finger on my old receipt so if any others have added a similar electric valve please post the information here with the correct part number. Thanks!
 

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