Quite a shocker let me tell you

[jcbGM]

Re: You need to be very careful if you are considering a Mahindra

I have a Mahindra 5035 diesel tractor with less than 60 hours on it. It is out of warranty. It destroyed the fuel injector pump and the fuel injectors due to a poor design from Mahindra (my opinion). The cost for the four injectors and the injector pump is $5745.10 plus tax plus installation. Now that over four times what a Kubota costs and what other's cost. Kubota has a water extraction system in their tractor which prevents this from happening and Mahindra's poor design and four times pricing makes buying an off brand tractor almost cheaper that repairing the Mahindra. They don't tell you this when you buy it.Nut they are ready to take you for the ~ 6K parts cost and about 2K to repair and replace the defective parts. Beware of Mahindra because they will not help. Even though their design fails, they have refused to help and we still owe over a years payments on the tractor. Talk about poor, crummy, ******, cheesy, just feel like they are cheating us. How would you feel?

I don’t own a kubota or Mahindra. Have serviced and rebuilt lots of kubota engines. Sounds like you had water in your fuel. Modern, common rail, high pressure diesels of any brand have very little tolerance for any contaminants, be it water or particulate. Your statements regarding parts pricing between the two brands is just plain false.

I understand that you’re not happy having this expensive repair in front of you, but there isn’t a 4x gap between the brands. Kubota injectors are almost $700 ea. Easy to verify on messicks online parts system. Just look up injectors for an mx4800. I couldn’t quickly come up with high pressure fuel pump pricing, but $2k isn’t out of the question. There is absolutely no way your kubota dealer can rebuild either of those components. It’s nearly impossible to rebuild common rail components. The tolerances are just too tight. There are a few specialized diesel shops that can do it, but the cost approaches new quickly.

Additionally, your fuel filter does have a water drain to remove water from the system, you never drained it. The kubota has a more convenient glass bowl design where you can see the water. It would still fail in a similar matter if you never drained it.

Again, I understand your frustration, but slamming a manufacturer for your poor fuel and making false comparisons isn’t justifiable.

 

[daugen]

Re: You need to be very careful if you are considering a Mahindra

Now to be fair we don't know it's bad fuel, just the most likely answer, being told the pump and injectors are "ruined" doesn't give enough
information.

My local foreign car repair shop told me stories of VW diesels crapping out at 60k miles because Bosch either didn't design those injector pumps to properly
last under ULSD diesel, or there was inadequate water separation. I really like using additives because of lubricity, just like getting a tiny bit of lube inside my high pressure washer once in a while. ULSD clearly isn't as slippery as the old stuff, and this is a widespread problem.

Should our diesels need additives in the fuel? probably not in dryer areas of country and where temps don't get too cold. Otherwise additives are cheap, I keep a jug right next to my diesel tank.

I change my fuel filters every two years and admittedly don't drain the filter for water. 75 hours a year. I change the filters on my diesel tank, sediment and waterblocking, every year, and I never have problems. So my advice to the ArizonaRancher (isn't it fairly dry there? condensation in tank? temp changes?) is to go to your local Napa store or car parts and pick up several jugs of diesel additive and start using them religiously. Won't fix what you have. If both pump and injectors scoured/ruined, super likely it's your fuel and most likely water. Since it's easy to dump additives in, that's what I do. Best of luck.

Btw, get an independent shop to do your work. Dealer is hosing you, too many layers of subcontracted cost there.
Dealers just like to change parts since it supports their Parts Dept...

 

[Monster5601]

Re: You need to be very careful if you are considering a Mahindra

I have a Mahindra 5035 diesel tractor with less than 60 hours on it. It is out of warranty. It destroyed the fuel injector pump and the fuel injectors due to a poor design from Mahindra (my opinion).

What is missing is why, why did the pump fail and also the injectors. How did the design of the pump and injectors play into the failure?

 

[monteu]

Re: You need to be very careful if you are considering a Mahindra

If you decide to keep your tractor, there are additives that deal with algae, water in the fuel, and fuel gelling. I use all three as I may keep fuel for months at a time.

Using all three is a bit expensive, but I am not running 200 hours a year so it is good insurance.

I cannot comment on the possible design faults of your machine, but if you are correct, consider getting it repaired and trading it. If you use it less than 15 hours a year, it may make sense to hire out the work you need done.

I just purchased a Kioti DK5010. I expect to put put 50-70 hours per year on it. Is there anything special I should be doing with the fuel?

 

[aczlan]

Re: You need to be very careful if you are considering a Mahindra

I just purchased a Kioti DK5010. I expect to put put 50-70 hours per year on it. Is there anything special I should be doing with the fuel?

Buy fuel from someplace that sells a lot of it (so that its fresh and not old and diluted with water), pour it in through something like a "Mr Funnel" that will stop any water that may be in there, keep the tank as full as possible and use fuel treatment that contains an algecide.

Aaron Z

 

[johnsonauto]

Re: You need to be very careful if you are considering a Mahindra

How often did you drain the water from the drain on your fuel filter as shown in the owners manual? How often did you change the filter in 7 years?

What happened, as to why they say the injectors and pump need replacement? What are the syptoms that led to this daignosis?

 

[TSO]

Re: You need to be very careful if you are considering a Mahindra

Seems like the OP stopped responding to this thread...

 

[Industrial Toys]

ALL, or just this one? lol

 

[cathy liebchen]

the money one saves on a second tier brand can then be spent on repairs

 

[AchingBack]

the money one saves on a second tier brand can then be spent on repairs

But when the "first tier" brand you spent much more to buy breaks down, then what? This thread seems to be more about poor maintenance, which will affect any brand.