Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one?

   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one? #101  
Strange Ranger - you'll find use for it, regardless of weather. ;)

Actually I have a landscape rake and it seems to find little use with the ratchet rake on the other end... I am actually thinking of reselling it, and possibly getting a box blade to move some bigger amounts of dirt around..
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one?
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#102  
I finally got my rake yesterday. Went out after supper and slapped her on. The thing is SOLID. I sure hope I like it b/c I don't want to pay return shipping on that thing! :)

It's been raining for about a month straight here in VT, so keep in mind while I was playing the ground was generally soggy/muddy/thick for lack of a better word. But so far my first impressions after about 1.5 hrs:

- It doesn't like mud/sticky soil.
- Goes on in about 1 min. Cool
- Very rugged, solid piece of steel. Cool.
- Has a learning curve but I'm getting use to it
- Seems to work well from what I've tried, but looking forward to using it in drier conditions
- Works great at tearing out brush, long grass etc. Very effective

My only concern so far is that I'm just a paranoid person about my FEL hydraulics and I have to wonder how much this tool can affect them. In order to really engage the big set of teeth the bucket has to be angled quite steeply. And I've read horror stories of how FEL ram damage is most often done when the rams are extended. But I guess, if you're not using too much down force and only really dig in the big teeth going backwards it should be ok.

If I can sneak out on the tractor again tonight I'll try to get some pics.

Has anyone else gotten more rake time in?
j
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one? #103  
My only concern so far is that I'm just a paranoid person about my FEL hydraulics and I have to wonder how much this tool can affect them. In order to really engage the big set of teeth the bucket has to be angled quite steeply. And I've read horror stories of how FEL ram damage is most often done when the rams are extended. But I guess, if you're not using too much down force and only really dig in the big teeth going backwards it should be ok.

j

I agree, that has been my concern also. If you have to extend the rams on the hydraulic cylinders to place the rake at the proper angle it is my opinion that you are running a risk. There was a thread not long ago where someone with a Kubota "M" series tractor bent both cylinder rams back dragging with the cutting edge of the bucket. My verdict is still out on this implement.

MarkV
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one? #104  
StrangeRanger,

I think the original idea was for the skidsteer, which has larger cylinders, and more mass. You will not be wanting to be going fast and catch a rock or something solid with the rake, in either direction..
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one? #105  
I still haven't had much seat time with mine to make a fair assessment. I did attempt to use it for a small project this past weekend but it failed in this task. I was getting a 15' X 28' area ready for some 3/4 bluestone to be delivered in preparation for my second 12' X 24' Amish garage to be delivered. I marked out my area (compacted top soil with grass) and attempted to remove the top layer. The rake didn't work at all in removing the grass (which I didn't think it would but wanted to try). If I would have kept going at it, it would have eventually done the trick. Ended up getting out my weed eater and destroyed the grass that way.

I agree with StrangeRanger that it is great at ripping out brush. Hopefully this weekend, I can get back out there and really try it out.
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one? #106  
I don't think I will need this to clear brush. In my mind I'm seeing me doing a back drag of dumped or box bladed dirt to level out and sift out rocks. Maybe back dragging small washed tracks/ditches/gullies to level out yard. Those of you that have them...how will they perform this task?
Maybe tilting bucket fully back and back dragging big tips to do some digging up yard then back dragging small teeth for smoother leveling. I know it will tear up my arms but me accepting that possibility, how about the performance of these tasks?
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one? #107  
On the rake elevation, they say to angle the rake at 30 to 50 degrees for back dragging, that is only about half of you tilt function, so the rams are not fully extended. Back dragging on any bucket tilted at 90 degrees is risky, as the rams are fully extended.
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one?
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#108  
Ok, got some more rake time last night. This might get a little long winded so sit back for a few minutes if you have time.

I really like the idea of this tool and I'm trying to be fair and impartial. But so far I dont' think I'm able to give a fair evaluation at this point b/c we've had so much rain and the ground is so soaked it's just stoopid. And from what I've seen this is definitely not a tool for anything but dry or reasonably dry conditions.

My main goal so far has been some driveway repair. Our gravel drive has mounds along the sides b/c the area we drive on has obviously been compacted down. Plus when I blow snow or plow debris gets accumulated along the sides of the drive. It's these mounds along both sides of the drive that are the bane of my existence. They're hard and full of decent sized rocks and crap. There's also very thick vegetation growing on/around them. To compound matters there's basically a culvert that runs along both sides of the drive. So working along this area is a little sketchy b/c there's very little room for maneuvering the tractor.

I've never owned a toothbar so I can't say how that would do. And the rear blade and box blade don't have any real down force to cut into these mounds. So I was hoping the rake would allow me to break up and get rid of these mounds. The rake so far has worked ok at this task. I still have hope. But as I said the ground is still rather wet so that creates a lot of issues w/ traction, the soil "balling" up, the vegetation really sticking in place etc. So far it's simply a matter of it taking more passes w/ the rake than I had hoped. But it looks like this will eventually work.

The next task was to repair and smooth out some burns in the gravel caused by heavy rains. Sorry, that might be a VT term. Burns are the washed away/out trails in your road from water coursing down it. Hands down the box blade is the winner in this application. No contest.

Then I headed out to the back "yard". My wife has been after me for close to 4 yrs now to fix up back there. When I first got my L3400 I went out there and dug around, played, practiced and basically made a big ole dirt patch. I never really fixed it b/c my sons loved having a huge dirt plot to play in. But it has become a large eye sore.

This is my other main reason for buying the rake. To repair the back yard I'm hoping to basically back drag w/ the rack and loosen the soil, remove the "grass" and sort out at least most of the rocks that have grown out there. It's compacted soil with a lot of rocks and something that resembles grass. Did I mention the rocks?

Again, I think the soil is still to wet. It's not really muddy, but it's damp. And the rake has been less than what I'd hoped for so far in this area. I think it will work if I can work the soil when it's a tad drier.

My last task for the rake I've not been able to try b/c my back field is completely saturated. And the only thing worse than getting your car stuck somewhere, is getting a tractor stuck. This last area is a small dirt track we drive r/c trucks on. I think this will be a good comparison b/c honestly I think this tool is best suited for non-compacted soil. And that's no surprise b/c I think that is exactly what the inventor made it for. He's a contractor working w/ softened soil at building sites and I'm sure it works amazingly in those conditions.

To address some points:
JJ: Yes, I saw/read about the 30-50 deg angle. I understand the rams are not fully extended at this angle but it still gives me a pucker factor in the seat region. That might just be me. But I have been working/moving very slowly w/ the rake so far so I think I should be ok. As long as I keep my head about me.

JohnThomas: You might be willing to accept the possibility of tore up rams, but I'm not. A tool that does more damage than good is no tool in my mind. That scenario is similar to my 8 yo loose in my shop. Not gonna happen, again :)

As I keep saying and sorry for repeating myself, I think this tool is probably amazing in the setting it was designed for. Loosened or slightly loosened soil of a job site. It does a great job on vegetation for sure. And I do think once the ground dries a bit around here I'll have better luck. I do like the rake and really want it to work out so I'm more than happy to keep trying. I'm sure like any implement it's got a learning curve that I'm still pretty low on.

If you got questions or comments please let us know.
j
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one? #109  
How about some video when you get the chance, showing what it will not do good, and what it will do good.
 
   / Ratchet Rake - ever seen/used one?
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#110  
How about some video when you get the chance, showing what it will not do good, and what it will do good.

Ahaa!! I thought of that last night. You will get a kick out of the helmet cam I came up with. I took my son's old "rubber ducky" bike helmet, scrapped the innards out so it kinda fits on my head and gerry rigged a mount for the cam. My wife thinks I'm nuts, but it will work. Just gotta find the cam battery and charge it up :)
j
 

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